Who is better British SAS or American Special Forces?

[FnG41]

Camparing the SAS to Delta Force? Do you know anything about Delta Force except in fictional stories and rumor? I, being a US Army Ranger Veteran, first off, can tell you that you guys have no idea about what and who Delta Force are and what it even consists of. Delta Force is BY FAR, the Meanest , Toughest, Badest, Most highly trained individual out of any SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNITS, Foreign or Domestic. You can't even put SAS in a class with Delta Force, period! I've trained with these guys and I thought my Ranger Training was tough? What a joke that was. They put my training to shame and any other Specail Operations Units. The problem is that civilians, such as yourselves, have no clue regarding this, and that's for a damn good reason, as I can see in this post.




<< Rangers are called "Special Forces" only by the un-initiated. They are actually classed as "Raiders". They go in, hit a target, and get out. There are also more Rangers than the above three divisions combined. Rangers aren't supposed to hold ground either. Thats the job of Marines and regular army. >>



If you only had a clue. Actually, the Marine Comparable Ranger units are Called "RAIDERS." And there is a difference between "SPECIAL FORCES" and "SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNITS." As an exRanger I can say that we were strictly classified as a SPECAIL OPERATIONS UNIT!

Also, know your facts about Delta Force, the missions are far more indepth than hostage rescue.

 

[DJFuji]

Jesus H Christ, how the hell did we get so many self-proclaimed special forces "experts" in here? Last I checked this was a COMPUTER HARDWARE site. It's just amazing how SO many computer hardware people also seem to be elite operatives in various special forces teams around the world. At the military.com forums they don't claim to know that the intel architecture is superior to AMD or vice versa, so jesus, stop acting like you know the entire world's special forces capabilities. Yes, there are some people here who may have actually BEEN in a branch of Special Forces, but how many SEALs do you know who have also been SAS and Spetznaz and Greet Berets and force recon ...etc?

The point is that even those who have BEEN THERE can't possibly know the other SpecOps teams well enough to accurately gauge anything. Bottom line is if you haven't been there, you have no room to comment, and NO ONE can be everywhere at once, so thus no one should be commenting on which is better. It's made even worse by the other 99% of posters who are posting just based on what they've heard or read. The entire thread is self-defeating because there's no way ANYONE can know. ...Unless, of course, someone has managed to join every single elite force out there and has gone through all of their training...riiiiight. Even if he did exist, do you REALLY think he'd be here flapping his gums about it?

Consider the following thread: "Which is more painful, getting sucked into a black hole or traveling at light speed and hitting a planet?"
Well its obvious to me at least that NO ONE CAN POSSIBLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS! But 10 bucks says you'll have ignorant people posting on why one is more painful than the other...

Kudos to scauffiel and the other intelligent people here who have also realized that you can't compare apples and oranges and expect to get a clear answer.

 

[wepopfresh]

Last time I checked, they were all human. They die when shot, and bleed when cut. Almost all elite forces of the world are a step above the average soldier, but no amount of training, no amount of hardcore attitude, and no amount of sticking your chest out or measuring your member down under will make you less vunerable to a bullet, to a mortar, or to artillery.

Which is better? It doesn't matter. The navy, army, marines, brittish, russians, israeli, etc.... all do their job and they do it well. Each group has had successes and been marred by failure. Sure, the SAS is more romanticized, but thats because their brits.

Salut to the men and women of the world that stand for what they believe and are willing to die for our rights.

de oppreso liber
who dares wins
semper fi

..whatever it takes.

 

[Albatros]

I dont care what anybody says, Americans kick ass

 

[mcveigh]

<< USMC Force Recon >>


Hell yeah!!

Seriously, when you are talking about elite spec ops, it's pretty silly to say "a" is better than "b" most of them cross train with each other and go through each others training courses. you have to remember that each has their specialty. You don't send in seals to train guerillas, or Army spec ops to blow up a sub. but they can both do it if need be.

Of course just send in the Marines if you want it done cheap and no one left alive to complain!!

Semper Fi

 

[ukDave]

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<< A Brittish SAS is one bad sumbitch, and don't believe any different.

I saw their training first hand. It makes Seal training look like Girl Scouts. >>



I have seen Seal boot camp with their Hell Week. I doubt if anyone who survives that take kindly to being called a Girl Scout.

I think it's safe to say both SAS and Seals are tough SOBs, tougher than you or I. >>




hell week! Is that it! SAS Commandos's go through months and months of physical and mental training. They are churcked into some of the worst environments and told to survive for a week for example - with no possesions at ALL.

Just watch discovery and you'll see.

I'm English, and i'm not saying that the American Special Forces are bad, because there not, but the SAS (and SBS) are better. The SBS are better than the SAS btw.

I did hear froma mate that some American soldiers were so pumped up that after a day with no food they fainted becasue they're bodies could'nt handle it. This doesn't happen with te SAS - they are lean and mean, which allows them greater options when in battle.

dave

 

[cyclones]

For all your sakes , I hope you never find out the hard way.
Just know that whichever specialised unit you pick, are guys and girls
specially trained to do a rotten job.
One of those training areas is to totally ignore crap like this.

 

[Czar]

May I remind everyone that SAS were the first units to be on ground in Afghanistan.

 

[MustangSVT]

i dont know jack sh1t about this but isnt Delta force supposed to be top notch?

 

[freegeeks]

HAHAHAH
What a pathetic thread -- it's more like a pissing contest --

 

[RgrPark]

I'm not going to get into this pissing contest cuz most of this stuff seems like one's opinions such as "I swear my unit is harder blah blah", but when it comes to facts,

Kosugi where the hell do you get your information?


o Rangers are called "Special Forces" only by the un-initiated. They are actually classed as "Raiders". They go in, hit a target, and get out. There are also more Rangers than the above three divisions combined. Rangers aren't supposed to hold ground either. Thats the job of Marines and regular army.

Last time I checked the 75th Regt had less than 2500 pax total.

You're saying that's more than all the above units combined? Delta alone has more than 500 people. You must be smoking some serious dope.

Please enlighten me by backing up your claims. Post the approximate numbers of the other units.

As far as training goes, the best trained troops - bar none - for their particular specialized mission are the US Navy Seals. Their training is beyond brutal, and the end result is a hard-core killer.

So how does that make them better than the other units? That sentence just doesn't sound right.

 

[Tripleshot]

All the armed forces units perform their appointed duties with deadly precesion and dedecation. I think the SAS Forces are notto be wreckoned with unless you have a death wish. That goes for Green Beret,Black Beret, SEALS, And all other specialized forces we depend on in times of crisis.


And those are just the ones you know about.

 

[StUdMaN]

given englands track record they seem to talk tough and then let everyone else do their fighting,breaker morant was another movie-they had austrailians doing their fighting while they took credit and then they court marshalled the ones who were doing their job and executed them
that little island would be the smallest teritory in the nazi empire had we Americans not jumped in
and just out of curriousity does no one remember that it was FDR democrap that imprisioned Japanese-Americans?

 

[HappyGamer2]

EASY EASY EASY HERE PEOPLE, arguing about something as crazy as this is funny as all hell and pointless, what is the point in it?.....hey it's fun thou, let start WW3 and find out who's best

 

[Lankin]

Actually CIA paramilitary units were the first armed forces in Afghanistan. Granted they aren't Special Ops, but hey, they are just as tough and deadly

 

[cthulhu]

Delta force all the way! SAS are nothing to sneeze at.

 

[silverpig]

James Bond could kick anyone's a$$.

 

[eMotion]

I would say the order is:

1. Special Air Service / Special Boat Service
2. Delta Force
3. French Commandment des Operations Speciales (COS)

I like the french because they always go mad and kill everyone. They would prove useful in afganistan.

 

[DannyLove]

SAS baby!

 

[DJFuji]

Is everyone here deaf, dumb, and stupid? Stop talking out of your as$! As the famous PC Game aptly puts it, "you don't know JACK"

 

[S0me1X]

I usually press "5" for autoselect, so I have no preference of what skin I use.

 

[Supahfreak]

I like the guy with the Gas Mask in Counter-strike, does that mean anything?!?!?!?!

Need an MP3 player,

FreAk

 

[meTARZANyouJANE]

Those Afghan hicks look to be a mean bunch of mofos. There born to hurt and do serious damage while our western people are taught in the classroom to run around beaches and shoot at sandhills. I would think any of those guerilla gorillas you find in the third world would outlast any of our pampered recruits.



<< I do know that they take boys and turn them into absolutely amazing men. I have a few former students who are/were in different U.S. Special Forces (no SEALS though) and the evolution of those young men has been one of the most impressive and successful missions I have ever seen. >>


Did your little boys prefer yoohoo or pepsi to go along with their veal parmigan in their lunch pails ? HA HA

 

[DJFuji]

umm...riiight...that would explain why we're beating the holy CRAP out of those countries...

You could be "born to hurt" all you want, but if you're ill-trained, you're going to get your as$ handed to you.

Pampered recruits? I see you must be a "pampered" civilian...