who is a socialist?

alien42

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Brian Moore is the socialist currently running for POTUS, no one better to ask than him...

Q: "Are you distressed that the word "socialist" is being taken away from you and your party, and that the big, capitalist parties are now being called socialists, too?"

A: "Well, of course. It's just not true. Barack Obama is not a socialist. His party is a capitalist party. They voted for the bailout. They're both capitalist parties."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/st...4f47-a2db-fc79a1dcaada

 

Dissipate

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Obama is a corporatist, as has been every president since corporations have been around. In a sense it is a version of socialism. For instance, the bailout plan is basically socialism for the wealthy.

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Ozoned

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Originally posted by: alien42
Brian Moore is the socialist currently running for POTUS, no one better to ask than him...

Q: "Are you distressed that the word "socialist" is being taken away from you and your party, and that the big, capitalist parties are now being called socialists, too?"

A: "Well, of course. It's just not true. Barack Obama is not a socialist. His party is a capitalist party. They voted for the bailout. They're both capitalist parties."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/st...4f47-a2db-fc79a1dcaada

You know, we cling to our guns and our religion around here, and when Obama opens his big fat mouth and says he is going to spread the wealth, we, the rednecks that we are, you know, the people that say he don't look like the other fellers on the dollar bills, we label him as a socialist. It sticks.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: alien42
Brian Moore is the socialist currently running for POTUS, no one better to ask than him...

Q: "Are you distressed that the word "socialist" is being taken away from you and your party, and that the big, capitalist parties are now being called socialists, too?"

A: "Well, of course. It's just not true. Barack Obama is not a socialist. His party is a capitalist party. They voted for the bailout. They're both capitalist parties."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/st...4f47-a2db-fc79a1dcaada

You know, we cling to our guns and our religion around here, and when Obama opens his big fat mouth and says he is going to spread the wealth, we, the rednecks that we are, you know, the people that say he don't look like the other fellers on the dollar bills, we label him as a socialist. It sticks.
i would bet that about 99% of "rednecks" make under $100k per year and will have their taxes reduced by Barack Obama. Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy however will pay more.

did you know that every resident in the state of Alaska gets a check for $3,200 a year directly from the oil companies? please explain to me how that is not "spreading the wealth".
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: alien42
Brian Moore is the socialist currently running for POTUS, no one better to ask than him...

Q: "Are you distressed that the word "socialist" is being taken away from you and your party, and that the big, capitalist parties are now being called socialists, too?"

A: "Well, of course. It's just not true. Barack Obama is not a socialist. His party is a capitalist party. They voted for the bailout. They're both capitalist parties."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/st...4f47-a2db-fc79a1dcaada

You know, we cling to our guns and our religion around here, and when Obama opens his big fat mouth and says he is going to spread the wealth, we, the rednecks that we are, you know, the people that say he don't look like the other fellers on the dollar bills, we label him as a socialist. It sticks.
i would bet that about 99% of "rednecks" make under $100k per year and will have their taxes reduced by Barack Obama. Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy however will pay more.

did you know that every resident in the state of Alaska gets a check for $3,200 a year directly from the oil companies? please explain to me how that is not "spreading the wealth".
Facts be damned. It's a campaign tactic. Kind of like calling someone a pnacian, or a neo-con. A derogatory innuendo, if you will. Obama is a socialist. It sticks to Obama like fried chicken on a fat girls ass.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: alien42
Brian Moore is the socialist currently running for POTUS, no one better to ask than him...

Q: "Are you distressed that the word "socialist" is being taken away from you and your party, and that the big, capitalist parties are now being called socialists, too?"

A: "Well, of course. It's just not true. Barack Obama is not a socialist. His party is a capitalist party. They voted for the bailout. They're both capitalist parties."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/st...4f47-a2db-fc79a1dcaada

You know, we cling to our guns and our religion around here, and when Obama opens his big fat mouth and says he is going to spread the wealth, we, the rednecks that we are, you know, the people that say he don't look like the other fellers on the dollar bills, we label him as a socialist. It sticks.
i would bet that about 99% of "rednecks" make under $100k per year and will have their taxes reduced by Barack Obama. Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy however will pay more.

did you know that every resident in the state of Alaska gets a check for $3,200 a year directly from the oil companies? please explain to me how that is not "spreading the wealth".
Facts be damned. It's a campaign tactic. Kind of like calling someone a pnacian, or a neo-con. A derogatory innuendo, if you will. Obama is a socialist. It sticks to Obama like fried chicken on a fat girls ass.

You're a moron. All you're telling us here is that you only believe what wingnut radio spoonfeeds your atrophied brain, facts be damned.
If a polisci test were required for voting, you'd be disenfranchised.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Obama is a corporatist, as has been every president since corporations have been around. In a sense it is a version of socialism. For instance, the bailout plan is basically socialism for the wealthy.

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Capitalism isn't anarchy. It inherently contains some elements of public ownership that some might mistakenly misconstrue as socialism. For example, in the US, the Post Office. Or the police who protect the right to private property ownership. Or the military who defend our borders. And another example is this bailout, a capitalist concept known as "lender of last resort."
 

Genx87

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I think Obama is left of center but socialist he isnt. We dont have a true socialist major party in this country. If anything both parties seem to be going the fascism route big time.
 

microbial

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You know, all this bullshit "re-distribution of wealth" rhetoric from the right is so willfully ignorant.

Capitalism is one of the most liberal economic ideas ever conceived. Historically, this country is tied to capitalistic origins in England where the concentration and accumulation of wealth by feudal lords and kings was so centralized into the hands of just a few.

From this environment our country was born and capitalism is unequivocally meant to be a vehicle for redistributing and decentralizing wealth (a very effective vehicle, when allowed to operate without corruption).

So the take-home message is that Capitalism is at it's most pure and organc form, all about spreading the wealth.

Today, 2008, we have corrupted our economic systems so much--we have essentially returned back to a modern form of feudalism.