Who here works at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard...

[AznMaverick]

I think Hawaii would have been majorly messed up if they closed the shipyard here down...

 

[boomerang]

I don't live there so I really shouldn't comment but, maybe it would have helped bring the insane real estate prices in line.

I figure the next hurricane will help along those lines though.

 

[Toasthead]

they dont have hurricanes in the pacific...theyre typhoons

 

[Omegachi]

highly doubt they would do that. if they close down the yard it would be the dumbest move in BRAC history. killing a highly strategic military location and killing the economy of a state.

 

[AznMaverick]

We do have hurricanes here...we had hurricane iniki and another one 10 years before. I wish house pricees would go down too...

 

Pearl Harbor is a major coaling station for the U.S. Navy. Why would they even think of closing down PH?

 

[SilentZero]

Hawaiians have more of a chance on being granted sovernty than PH does of getting closed down! I do however think that some other bases on the island need to be closed (Ft. Shafter and perhaps Schofield). The army keeps troops in the theater primarily in the event that there are issues with N. Korea, however they send thousands to Iraq and Afganistan from these bases instead. PH is a strategic location for the pacific fleet, so that will never go anywhere, but the Army should reconsider its positions there in my opinion. I think the loss of 10-20k troops on Oahu would do its share to help lower housing costs, with the side effect of devastating the local economy (especially in miliani, kunia, wahiwa, and other locations close to the bases).

 

[Landroval]

My husband works there. We were not concerned about the recent news stories.

 

[AznMaverick]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Hawaiians have more of a chance on being granted sovernty than PH does of getting closed down! I do however think that some other bases on the island need to be closed (Ft. Shafter and perhaps Schofield). The army keeps troops in the theater primarily in the event that there are issues with N. Korea, however they send thousands to Iraq and Afganistan from these bases instead. PH is a strategic location for the pacific fleet, so that will never go anywhere, but the Army should reconsider its positions there in my opinion. I think the loss of 10-20k troops on Oahu would do its share to help lower housing costs, with the side effect of devastating the local economy (especially in miliani, kunia, wahiwa, and other locations close to the bases).

I agree. I think that we do need some kind of realignment or reorganization of military. i hope to buy a house within the next 5 years, so hopefully price drop significantly.

 

[FoBoT]

ships don't use coal anymore

The terms "hurricane" and "typhoon" are regionally specific names for a strong "tropical cyclone". A tropical cyclone is the generic term for a non-frontal synoptic scale low-pressure system over tropical or sub-tropical waters with organized convection (i.e. thunderstorm activity) and definite cyclonic surface wind circulation (Holland 1993).

Tropical cyclones with maximum sustained surface winds of less than 17 m/s (34 kt, 39 mph) are called "tropical depressions" (This is not to be confused with the condition mid-latitude people get during a long, cold and grey winter wishing they could be closer to the equator ;-)). Once the tropical cyclone reaches winds of at least 17 m/s (34 kt, 39 mph) they are typically called a "tropical storm" and assigned a name. If winds reach 33 m/s (64 kt, 74 mph)), then they are called:

* "hurricane" (the North Atlantic Ocean, the Northeast Pacific Ocean east of the dateline, or the South Pacific Ocean east of 160E)
* "typhoon" (the Northwest Pacific Ocean west of the dateline)
* "severe tropical cyclone" (the Southwest Pacific Ocean west of 160E or Southeast Indian Ocean east of 90E)
* "severe cyclonic storm" (the North Indian Ocean)
* "tropical cyclone" (the Southwest Indian Ocean)

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/A1.html

 

[brian_riendeau]

"if they close down the yard it would be the dumbest move in BRAC history. killing a highly strategic military location and killing the economy of a state."

Unfortunately, BRAC is not so much concerned with strategic locals and economies as they are concerned about stroking off politicians and fufilling their own adgendas. I live next to the Brunswick Naval Air Station in Maine. This is, as some may know, one of the very few air bases in the entire Northeast of the country. Also, anyone who looked at a map could easily tell you BNAS is closer to Europe than any other base on American soil. The economies of many towns revolve around BNAS being there. And being in Maine, when 3,000+ soldiers go away and take their family and kids with them, that is going to decimate this area. Now, in common sense terms, it would seem to be a wise idea to keep bases like this open given their proximity to Europe and also because they have sat back and watched town after town go up around BNAS to support it.

Yesterday, BRAC moved BNAS to the Closure list.

 

[AznMaverick]

that is very bad