Who has figured out when man began?

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justin4pack

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OK so I got a question. I agree Science is way easier to prove but can you really say that out of our existence everything just happened to fall in place perfectly enough for man to be here. If you compare every other species on the planet, none is even close to our advanced way of thinking or technological advancements. So this is all by chance? Also that thing about science is always right and easy to prove....I just keeping thinking about how the earth was flat...
 

surfsatwerk

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Don't we have a Discussion Forum for retarded threads like this so they can die quickly and not bother the rest of the world.
 

Gibsons

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OK so I got a question. I agree Science is way easier to prove but can you really say that out of our existence everything just happened to fall in place perfectly enough for man to be here. If you compare every other species on the planet, none is even close to our advanced way of thinking or technological advancements. So this is all by chance? Also that thing about science is always right and easy to prove....I just keeping thinking about how the earth was flat...

"Perfectly enough for man" is a difficult concept. One way of looking at it is "painting the bullseye around the arrow," aka the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.

If the meteor had never hit, maybe a group of Super Raptors would now be pondering how everything came together perfectly for them instead.
 

Exophase

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OK so I got a question. I agree Science is way easier to prove but can you really say that out of our existence everything just happened to fall in place perfectly enough for man to be here. If you compare every other species on the planet, none is even close to our advanced way of thinking or technological advancements. So this is all by chance?

There is a lot of evidence of species along the way that paint a picture of man's development. Some of our nearest surviving relatives, like (common) chimps and bonobos, may be closer to our level of reasoning than you realize.

Earlier I referred to humanity as a biological singularity, where they change and advance on their own from generation to generation, leading to an exponential level of growth in complexity. This concept mirrors the idea of a singularity in artificial intelligence, where we make an AI that is capable of improving itself (making a better AI), and the system takes over from there as it increases faster and faster. Would you say that this sort of thing is impossible, or would need a supernatural spark, or just the right conditions to get the ball rolling?

Also that thing about science is always right and easy to prove....I just keeping thinking about how the earth was flat...

I don't think anyone ever really trying to observe or measure the entire earth concluded it was flat. People have observed that their local area is relatively flat, which is true. Without being able to observe curvature they had no reason to account for it. That's not science, that's intuition, going for an explanation that simply makes sense. A lot of religious mythology does this - went for an explanation that made sense to the people who came up with it. For example: normally, our senses represent the physical reality before us. So when we have hallucinations, it's intuitive to believe they represent some physical reality. When people have near-death experiences they may feel their life flash before their eyes, detachment, peace, moving towards a bright light, meeting with deceased loved ones, etc. The intuitive explanation for this (for those who still lived to tell about it) would suggest an afterlife; the explanations we've developed empirically via the scientific method aren't as accessible. But that doesn't make the intuitive answer science, merely a hypothesis.
 

JD50

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I like how you all cry when we ask you for proof of something and you try to turn it on us with wild and exaggerated claims....you have way too many atheist talking points or reasons for not giving answers.....that's okay -- Jesus still loves you!!

links....proof....oh it`s your opinion I get it.....

that's not proof...that a word...prove it....you stepped in it....
Science is one word --- using science or whatever else you may wish to use..pink unicorns...etc..prove it...

Is there something wrong with you? There's an entire thread devoted to Evolution with all the evidence that you're asking for over in the Discussion Forum, a thread in which you've been actively posting.
 

alkemyst

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My dad like threw some clay against the wall one day and snapped his fingers then there was man.

I always liked it better when he played with his clay rather than throw me against the wall.

The dinosaurs were cooler though.
 

ElFenix

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Look heathens, you can't explain how everything in nature is designed perfectly for man. There's no amount of "scientific proof" that can explain how a banana fits perfectly in human's hands, as an example.

what about handbanana?
 

KeithTalent

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/looks at Title, scratches head, confused

If only there was a forum god...

Well this topic has been discussed ad nauseam in the DC, and with far better posts on both sides, so it would really just be a lock. However if you guys want to sit here and bash your heads against the wall, knock yourself out.

KT
 

surfsatwerk

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Well this topic has been discussed ad nauseam in the DC, and with far better posts on both sides, so it would really just be a lock. However if you guys want to sit here and bash your heads against the wall, knock yourself out.

KT

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!111! I was hoping for a response of a more "smiting" nature.
 

jagec

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This thread:
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zinfamous

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Alkemyst declared it so, and there was man.

proof.

edit: well blow me down--look like Alkemyst has already postulated the greater douche theory in this thread.

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alkemyst

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Alkemyst declared it so, and there was man.

proof.

edit: well blow me down--look like Alkemyst has already postulated the greater douche theory in this thread.

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The Greater Douche Theory is we are all douches. Those that have owned M3's reign supreme.

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