Who gets the blame for 9/11 IYO

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Uhtrinity

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Bush the 2nd as it was his watch and he took no actions to fight terrorism until it actually happened.
 
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chowderhead

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Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda with funding by people in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere.
However, what GWB and his administration decided to do after 9-11 should be the subject of debate.
 
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b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: amdfanboy
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What about the guys in the planes?

Surely those who are directly responsible should get some of the blame ;)

But I don't think you can really put the blame on one person
 
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conjur

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Clinton. This can't be disputed.
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So, Bush, Sr.'s placement of U.S. troops *in* Saudi Arabia, thus enraging bin Laden against the U.S., had nothing to do with it?
 
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Genx87

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So, Bush, Sr.'s placement of U.S. troops *in* Saudi Arabia, thus enraging bin Laden against the U.S., had nothing to do with it?
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If it wasnt that it would be the support of isreal, if we leave Isreal out the dry it will be our excessive lifestyle. When we curb our lifestyle to sharia law then he will be happy and we will live the way they do in Iran.

See where we are going with this?
 
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Kibbo

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Clinton himself acknowledges part blame. If only Bush Jr. would do the same. He might have more integrity in my eyes. Though by this point, I don't know if my opinion of him is too far gone to change what I think. Judas's "all of the above" is a pretty good one.

Query:

Why no choice for the illuminati?
 
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tallest1

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amdfanboy, perhaps you should have Sadaam added to the first poll for the misinformed
 
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Stunt

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Wow, you guys are all wrong...what are you...well informed or something?

Any average american KNOWS that the true culprit of 9/11 is Saddam Hussen and the people of Iraq...
Like come on...THERE IS A WAR GOING ON RIGHT NOW!!!

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Aimster

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I'm not here to make friends so I'll lay it out right.

How can anyone blame Bush for another terrorist attack? How can anyone blame Bush for 9/11? It was not Bush's fault. If you want to blame someone blame Saudi Arabia and osama bin launden's terrorist organization.
If anything the war in Iraq has caused a lot of them to fight U.S forces in Iraq. Yes obviously there might be a few cells in the U.S. There are 7-8 million Muslims in the U.S and maybe 1-100 of them could be part of Al Qaeda. Is it Bush's fault that they came to this country? please ..

If anyone doesn't know I voted for Kerry and I do not like GWB, but I do not see how you can blame attacks on a president.

By the way those saying we should have went after OBL when we had the chance, well it wouldn't have changed anything. Attacking S.A won't really change anything. The regime in S.A is loyal to the U.S and they are doing everything they can to stop the extremist. What is going to change if the U.S attacks S.A? Nothing. Those people will continue to hate us more. What reason do we have to attack S.A when the regime supports the U.S? I don't care about their fanatical Islamic laws. That doesn't make someone hate the U.S.

The problems with all this hate is from Israel-Palestine and U.S support for Israel and Arab support for the U.S. You want the terror to end? Find a solution to Israel-Palestine. I don't care what it is just do it. Build a wall 500 feet high.
 
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Drift3r

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How about everyone on that list ! I blame them all !! Some more then others but they all can share in the blame.
 
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Stunt

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You cannot blame the president per se. But maybe if one looks at the reasons for the terrorist attacks. ie. US foreign policy, you kinda can. I dont think Bush's adventures in the ME are gaining the US many friends...so yeah we can blame him plenty :)
 
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: spidey07
Clinton. This can't be disputed.
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So, Bush, Sr.'s placement of U.S. troops *in* Saudi Arabia, thus enraging bin Laden against the U.S., had nothing to do with it?
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I would blame it on Bin Laden. Bin Laden is the one responsibile for his own behavior. George Bush, Sr. is not responsible for Bin Laden's behavior. I've looked at your "website" and I can't say I'm surprised that you responded this way. Also, I'm not very impressed with your website. You leave out many facts and most of the websites that you link to (the ones that work) are not what I would consider decent sources.

Using your logic, Conjur, I could easily say that Clinton is the one who enraged Bin Laden because the attacks came shortly after Bush entered office and also because Bin Laden doesn't seem to like Clinton very much. Read below.

Here are some paragraphs from a Bin Laden interview.

"Wali Khan Amin Shah was captured in Manila. American authorities believe he was working for you, funded by you, setting up training camps there and part of his plan was to plan out the assassination or the attempted assassination of President Clinton during his trip to Manila.

Wali Khan is a Muslim young man; his nickname in Afghanistan was the Lion. He was among the most courageous Muslim young men. He was a close friend and we used to fight from the same trenches in Afghanistan. We fought many battles against the Russians until they were defeated and put to shame and had to leave the country in disgrace. As to what you said about him working for me, I have nothing to say. We are all together in this; we all work for Allah and our reward comes from him. As to what you said about the attempt to assassinate President Clinton, it is not surprising. What do you expect from people attacked by Clinton, whose sons and mothers have been killed by Clinton? Do you expect anything but treatment by reciprocity? "

"The American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will. Do you have a message for the American people?

I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration ... . We believe that this administration represents Israel inside America. Take the sensitive ministries such as the Ministry of Exterior and the Ministry of Defense and the CIA, you will find that the Jews have the upper hand in them. They make use of America to further their plans for the world, especially the Islamic world. American presence in the Gulf provides support to the Jews and protects their rear. And while millions of Americans are homeless and destitute and live in abject poverty, their government is busy occupying our land and building new settlements and helping Israel build new settlements in the point of departure for our Prophet's midnight journey to the seven heavens. America throws her own sons in the land of the two Holy Mosques for the sake of protecting Jewish interests. ...

The American government is leading the country towards hell. ... We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests not the interests of the Jews. If the present injustice continues with the wave of national consciousness, it will inevitably move the battle to American soil, just as Ramzi Yousef and others have done. This is my message to the American people. I urge them to find a serious administration that acts in their interest and does not attack people and violate their honor and pilfer their wealth. ...

Also, I would suggest that each and every one of you, that blames Bush for 911, read the 911 Commission report. All of it. Every single page. Then tell me who dropped the ball.
 
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