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Having three kids gets me excited to do taxes. I always finish as soon as I can, so I can get my yearly federal bonus. This year it came to $3039.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: Vic
Did you give Uncle Sam a big interest-free loan and now you think that getting your own money back is like free prize money?

Absolutely.

Because I know that if I had that extra $100 each paycheck, I would have just blown it on crap like going out to eat.
 

dquan97

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If I bought a house in October, will I be getting a statement from the mortgage company that lists the interest I paid for the year? If so, I'm still waiting for this last document to do my taxes.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
See that is the one thing I don't understand about taxes. How can you end up owing money? I'm guessing when you throw a house into the mix that is when things get confusing?
Lets do a few simple examples. Suppose for 2005 I will owe $3600 in federal income taxes (that means by April 15, 2006 I'll have to have paid $3600 to the federal government). There are three ways to proceed:

1) Have $300 withheld each month throughout 2005. Then by December, I will have 12 * $300 = $3600 withheld. When I file my taxes, I will owe nothing and get no return. Everything will balance out.

2) Have more than $300 withheld each month. Lets say I have my boss withhold $500 a month. By the end of the year, I'd have 12 * $500 = $6000 withheld. When I file my federal income taxes, I'd get $6000 - $3600 = $1400 back in a refund since I overpaid. This is really stupid of me, since I don't want to let the government borrow $1400 with no interest being paid to me. I'd be able to spend my $1400 month by month throughout 2005 rather than waiting until sometime in 2006 for it. For some unexplained reason, many people enjoy this method.

3) The final method is to have less than $300 a month withheld. Lets say I have my boss withhold $0 a month. By the end of the year I'd have paid $0 in federal income taxes. When I file my taxes, I'd still owe $3600. So I'd write a $3600 check sometime around April 15, 2006. This method lets me use that $3600 during the year 2005 to do whatever I need. Of course, there are two drawbacks. (A) I have to find a way to get $3600 when I file my taxes and many people can't do this - they would have spent it all. (B) This is against the intent of the federal income tax law and can result in hefty penalties in some cases.

In all 3 cases, I pay $3600 in federal income tax. The difference lies in when I pay them.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: dquan97
If I bought a house in October, will I be getting a statement from the mortgage company that lists the interest I paid for the year? If so, I'm still waiting for this last document to do my taxes.
You should. I just got mine yesterday. But very likely you won't have paid enough interest to do you any good. (Unless you have other deductions).
 

MSCoder610

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I think I'll end up having to pay the IRS some of my scholarship money, since scholarships are taxable income over tuition/course expenses (room/board not included, etc) :(
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
I am. I always have the max taken out. That way I recieve a nice sized return. With some luck I'll have a 2100FP sitting on my desk in a few weeks. :)

YES. You and I think alike...MUAHAHAH....LOL
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: MSCoder610
I think I'll end up having to pay the IRS some of my scholarship money, since scholarships are taxable income over tuition/course expenses (room/board not included, etc) :(

Yes, taxes on scholarship "income" definitely suck. I owed quite a bit during my four years of college. Luckily my mom generously offered to foot the bill since I had a free ride to school. :)
 

KK

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Between the state and federal, they gave me an 2600 interest free loan good till mid april. Aren't they sweet. If the IRS was a woman, I'd marry her( another dependant to claim there).
 

iamwiz82

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The tax snobs are out enforce today. ;)

I prefer getting a nice little refund. Who gives a damn if I could have had 1/26th of it added to each paycheck when I know that would have been expendable anyways. And lets not forget the awesome return I would have gotten from a bank.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
Damn how did you get them done so early? Did you get your W-2s in advance?
Everyone knows their necessary information by December. I always have my taxes calculated by then. If you do your taxes electronically or by the phone you don't even have to wait for the W-2s. Or if you want to do it by mail, the minute the W-2s come, staple them on and mail it in.

 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: CPA
I had mine done mid-December.

Damn how did you get them done so early? Did you get your W-2s in advance?

lmao... look at his nic!


I'm hoping for a nice chunk of change back... I have a few extra things to write off this year (3 semesters of tuition, donated a car, refi on a house...) I was initially hoping for about 5k back, but my wife says it looks more like 2-3k. (We got over 4k back last year)... Yeah, it's an interest free loan, but our incomes and deductions have been fluctuating so widely the past several years that I'd rather err on the positive side than the negative side.
 

spacejamz

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we paid a bunch in mortgage interest and property taxes last year, so we should get some money back(last year was first year of homeowner ship)...

need to run the numbers on filing a joint return or file separately to see which gives a better return...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DT4K
Originally posted by: Vic
Did you give Uncle Sam a big interest-free loan and now you think that getting your own money back is like free prize money?
Absolutely.

Because I know that if I had that extra $100 each paycheck, I would have just blown it on crap like going out to eat.
Well... a little self-restraint goes a long way in exercising good personal financial management.
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: CPA
I had mine done mid-December.

Damn how did you get them done so early? Did you get your W-2s in advance?

lmao... look at his nic!


I'm hoping for a nice chunk of change back... I have a few extra things to write off this year (3 semesters of tuition, donated a car, refi on a house...) I was initially hoping for about 5k back, but my wife says it looks more like 2-3k. (We got over 4k back last year)... Yeah, it's an interest free loan, but our incomes and deductions have been fluctuating so widely the past several years that I'd rather err on the positive side than the negative side.


Yeah but I'm taking a tax training class and I know you need to send in your copy of your W-2s from the employer when you file for a return or taxes.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: CPA
I had mine done mid-December.

Damn how did you get them done so early? Did you get your W-2s in advance?

lmao... look at his nic!


I'm hoping for a nice chunk of change back... I have a few extra things to write off this year (3 semesters of tuition, donated a car, refi on a house...) I was initially hoping for about 5k back, but my wife says it looks more like 2-3k. (We got over 4k back last year)... Yeah, it's an interest free loan, but our incomes and deductions have been fluctuating so widely the past several years that I'd rather err on the positive side than the negative side.


Yeah but I'm taking a tax training class and I know you need to send in your copy of your W-2s from the employer when you file for a return or taxes.

On my Telefile sheet it specifically says "DO NOT SEND IN YOUR W2s"
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: MSCoder610
I think I'll end up having to pay the IRS some of my scholarship money, since scholarships are taxable income over tuition/course expenses (room/board not included, etc) :(

yes, and that pisses me off. I'm scraping to get by here, they refuse to give me a penny of financial aid beyond my "needs", and, well, apparently taxes aren't a "need":roll:
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: spacejamz

we paid a bunch in mortgage interest and property taxes last year, so we should get some money back(last year was first year of homeowner ship)...

need to run the numbers on filing a joint return or file separately to see which gives a better return...

Unless you have a large desparity between income and deductions, filing jointly will be the better way to go.

Filing seperately will also shaft you from some dedutions.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: CPA
I had mine done mid-December.

Damn how did you get them done so early? Did you get your W-2s in advance?

lmao... look at his nic!


I'm hoping for a nice chunk of change back... I have a few extra things to write off this year (3 semesters of tuition, donated a car, refi on a house...) I was initially hoping for about 5k back, but my wife says it looks more like 2-3k. (We got over 4k back last year)... Yeah, it's an interest free loan, but our incomes and deductions have been fluctuating so widely the past several years that I'd rather err on the positive side than the negative side.


Yeah but I'm taking a tax training class and I know you need to send in your copy of your W-2s from the employer when you file for a return or taxes.

Only when filing paper.

 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: MSCoder610
I think I'll end up having to pay the IRS some of my scholarship money, since scholarships are taxable income over tuition/course expenses (room/board not included, etc) :(

yes, and that pisses me off. I'm scraping to get by here, they refuse to give me a penny of financial aid beyond my "needs", and, well, apparently taxes aren't a "need":roll:

I made a post in the "tax questions" sticky, and was told that I don't have to pay taxes on money given to me for school

 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: spacejamz

we paid a bunch in mortgage interest and property taxes last year, so we should get some money back(last year was first year of homeowner ship)...

need to run the numbers on filing a joint return or file separately to see which gives a better return...

Unless you have a large desparity between income and deductions, filing jointly will be the better way to go.

Filing seperately will also shaft you from some dedutions.

that's what I am thinking also, but just want to make sure...thanks!!!