Who buys music online?

[TheWart]

allofmp3 here

 

[dpm]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan
AllOfMP3 says it's .02 US per 1mb of download...

so if a song is 5mb big, it would only cost 10 cents US to buy the song? and if the whole CD was 50mb, it would only cost 1 dollar?

That's because they don't pay any real royalties to songwriters, performers, or record companies.

Their claim to being legal is essentially based on being a "radio station" that is "broadcasting" the songs to you, so they only pay radio station listener fees instead of real sales royalties. They claim this is legal in Russia.

But hey, if you want to pay money for audio warez that's your choice.

Audio warez? Surely these fine consumers are simply outsourcing their music needs - truly the American way!

 

[MrBond]

How's the ride on the WAAAHMBULANCE? People are paying for a product just as you would buy liquor from a foreign country, get over it.

Aren't you supposed to declare any liquor over a certain amount anyway? Seems like we were thinking about making a run to the duty free shop in Windsor once and we found out you could only legally bring back a very small amount legally before you had to pay the tax on it. If you stay longer, you can bring more, but it seems like no matter how long we stayed, we couldn't legally bring back the 4 cases we had intended to.

 

[Double Trouble]

I've been using allofmp3.com for a while now, excellent. Occasionally the site does get bogged down when doing searches, but overall you can't beat getting good clean MP3's at the bitrate you specify for a reasonable price. With regard to itunes and napster and all that junk: I still refuse to pay more for a protected file in a format I can only use the way they specify, or as long as I pay them (napster). No. I will pay the fee, and receive good MP3's that I can do with as I please - play in my mp3 player, on my pc, burn to cd etc.

As long as the music sellers don't offer that, I'll get my mp3's for free (newsgroups, torrent, friends, etc), or from a site like allofmp3 for a reasonable rate.

 

http://www.giganews.com/

 

[gigapet]

mirc still works just great after all these years

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

 

[Taejin]

I prefer not to deal with buying music online (esp from US companies) because of the stunts they are trying to pull (ie DRM).

Also, I would prefer to have my music in lossless, so I can rip it anyway I want, but they don't really offer that option either.

Guess its Bittorrent, Kazaalite and buying CDs for me

 

[CptObvious]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

AllofMP3 is different than the file-sharing networks that are based or have defendants in the U.S. Most likely, the only reason why they haven't been sued yet is because U.S. courts have no jurisdiction over them. That doesn't mean it's legal. The RIAA would probably have to go through some international treaties (WTO or WIPO or something) to bring an action for copyright infringement.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: MrBond

How's the ride on the WAAAHMBULANCE? People are paying for a product just as you would buy liquor from a foreign country, get over it.

Aren't you supposed to declare any liquor over a certain amount anyway? Seems like we were thinking about making a run to the duty free shop in Windsor once and we found out you could only legally bring back a very small amount legally before you had to pay the tax on it. If you stay longer, you can bring more, but it seems like no matter how long we stayed, we couldn't legally bring back the 4 cases we had intended to.

I was giving an example that you can always buy good from foreign countries and bring them back. Sometimes they're cheaper, sometimes more, but it's no different w/ the mp3s from Russia.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: MrBond

How's the ride on the WAAAHMBULANCE? People are paying for a product just as you would buy liquor from a foreign country, get over it.

Aren't you supposed to declare any liquor over a certain amount anyway? Seems like we were thinking about making a run to the duty free shop in Windsor once and we found out you could only legally bring back a very small amount legally before you had to pay the tax on it. If you stay longer, you can bring more, but it seems like no matter how long we stayed, we couldn't legally bring back the 4 cases we had intended to.

I was giving an example that you can always buy good from foreign countries and bring them back. Sometimes they're cheaper, sometimes more, but it's no different w/ the mp3s from Russia.

Except in this case you're bringing back a burned CD-R you got from a street vendor, or a HK pirate DVD.

allofmp3 isn't paying real royalties to the artists. If you buy some cheap tequila the factory workers did get their 10 cents an hour.

 

[MrBond]

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

You raise an interesting point - I'd be inclined to agree with you here partially. As Capt.Obvious has said, there's little the RIAA can do to stop the use of AllofMP3. AFAIK, they're only suing those who SHARE music - not those who download it. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't kept up with the latest round of lawsuits.

However legal/illegal it is - I don't feel comfortable giving money to a company that may or may not be run by the Russian Mafia.

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: Grey
Rhapsody works for me .79 per song burned and unlimited listen on your PC for 9.99 a month.

Seconded. 9.99 a month is great to be able to listen to practically anything. I still think .79 a song is steep.

 

[Stark]

itunes.

i tried sony's site and walmart.com and they're both pale imitators.

 

[darkjester]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan
AllOfMP3 says it's .02 US per 1mb of download...

so if a song is 5mb big, it would only cost 10 cents US to buy the song? and if the whole CD was 50mb, it would only cost 1 dollar?

That's because they don't pay any real royalties to songwriters, performers, or record companies.

Their claim to being legal is essentially based on being a "radio station" that is "broadcasting" the songs to you, so they only pay radio station listener fees instead of real sales royalties. They claim this is legal in Russia.

But hey, if you want to pay money for audio warez that's your choice.

How's the ride on the WAAAHMBULANCE? People are paying for a product just as you would buy liquor from a foreign country, get over it.

LOL!!! :thumbsup::laugh:

 

[monk3y]

Walmart... I think it's $0.89 per song.

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Bittorrent

- M4H

schwing!

:shocked:

 

[Sundog]

For those of your who use AllofMP3.com, how do you pay???

Do you pay a Russian site via credit card? Too risky for me no matter how cheap.

 

[electricJ]

Originally posted by: Sundog
For those of your who use AllofMP3.com, how do you pay???

Do you pay a Russian site via credit card? Too risky for me no matter how cheap.

There is a way I heard about using Paypal.... I think its XROST. Basically, you send a paypal payment to XROST and get some kind of access key which you can then redeem in allofmp3. I haven't tried it out yet, but have heard it works good.

 

[MBony]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

My thoughts exactly...

 

[nick1985]

not me.

 

[Drakkon]

I'm using napster cause of the $190 h10 + 1 year of free music deal....so far so good....although some of the songs id really like they want 99cents for...

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

The RIAA can't go after this site as it's not based in the US. It's also not legal in the U.S. If you're going to get illegal mp3's, I don't know why you'd bother paying for them.

 

[arod]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

The RIAA can't go after this site as it's not based in the US. It's also not legal in the U.S. If you're going to get illegal mp3's, I don't know why you'd bother paying for them.

And you know theyre looking for loop holes everyday.... the fact that they havent been able to do a damn thing about them yet speaks volumes as to wether they ever will be able to take them down (thus cant sue any users)

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: arod

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
allofmp3 = probably illegal, certainly unethical, but people here hope it's "legal enough" to protect you from the RIAA.

The truly legal services sell protected WMA (Napster, Real, Buy.com, ...) or AAC (iTunes). To get unprotected MP3 you must burn a CD then re-rip it.

I use Napster, but only to preview music. I want lossless FLAC so if I like it I buy the real CDs and rip.

Stupid. At this point to claim AllofMp3 is "probably illegal" is absurd. The RIAA has left no stone unturned in their crusade to stop music piracy. The fact that they haven't said one word about AllofMp3 leaves no doubt it is legal. Ethical is up to you to decide.

The RIAA can't go after this site as it's not based in the US. It's also not legal in the U.S. If you're going to get illegal mp3's, I don't know why you'd bother paying for them.

And you know theyre looking for loop holes everyday.... the fact that they havent been able to do a damn thing about them yet speaks volumes as to wether they ever will be able to take them down (thus cant sue any users)

Of course they can sue users within U.S. jurisdiction. If you have a file not legally obtained, you can be sued. It doesn't matter where you got it. But I've only had a law degree and bar membership for 9 years, and a federal practice for 8 years, so maybe your legal experience is more than mine. If so, please share!