Who bought/is buying a Radeon RX 470 or RX 460?

techne

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Well, as far as I know, nobody bought yet a Radeon RX 470 or RX 460, simply because they will only be released a few days from now. But both are already officially announced, and we'll soon have their reviews.

I was planning to buy a RX 480, but some time has passed and I'm becoming more and more interested in the RX 470. It seems to be just what I need to game with a 1080p@60Hz monitor.

On the other hand, I'd like to have a fanless card with HVEC capabilities to upgrade my HTPC (in which I don't game), so I would really like to have something like a "RX 450" (instead of the RX 460). But it seems that such fanless card will not happen...
 

3DVagabond

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I have a feeling that the 470 is going to be <10% slower clk4clk than the 480. If it really comes in @ $150 it's going to bring quality gaming to a lot of people.
 

SPBHM

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I think the 460 is a little disappointing

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unlike the 470 and the 480 it doesn't really add more SPs compared to the card it replaces.
edit: I suppose if you consider it to be replacing the 360 I'm wrong, but I tend to ignore that card because of the 260X

it looks like it wont even beat a GTX 950.

but if the price drops a little I could probably see one as a good option for me.
 
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Well if the 470 is $149.. and the 460 is $99, the performance gap between them is huge, as well as the 2 vs 4GB vram. Unless somebody desperate needs no PCIE plug GPU, the 460 is rather pointless.

Saying that, the 750Ti was very popular, despite being pretty weak.. at the very low end, I don't understand that market. :/
 
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Yea the spacing is strange. 470 is very close to 480, while there is a big drop off to the 460. I was hoping for something like 1280 shaders at 100 watts or less tdp. I know there are other improvements as well, but even my HD7770, a low end card that is very old now , has 640 shaders. According to AMD, the 460 is aimed at the free to play, moba type gamer, but with the 470 only about 150.00 the 460 seems way too cut down.
 

SPBHM

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Well if the 470 is $149.. and the 460 is $99, the performance gap between them is huge, as well as the 2 vs 4GB vram. Unless somebody desperate needs no PCIE plug GPU, the 460 is rather pointless.

Saying that, the 750Ti was very popular, despite being pretty weak.. at the very low end, I don't understand that market. :/

750 ti was ok perf/$
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/images/perfdollar.gif

best perf/w by far
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/images/perfwatt.gif

IF the 470 is $150 like the 750 ti was it's probably going to be great perf/$ but average perf/w

but, I've heard rumors about the price being $179?

I hope not.
 

raghu78

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Rx 470 4GB would be a great buy at USD 149 and a good buy at USD 159. At USD 169 its ok but above that price it does not make sense. I think the Rx 470 4GB will be 10% slower than Rx 480 4GB. AMD might price it at USD 159 so as to not eat into Rx 480 4GB sales.

Rx 460 2G should sell for USD 99-USD 109. the Rx 460 4GB is going to be a bad card as its going to be too close to Rx 470 4GB. Unless the person needs a card without 6 pin PCI-E power the Rx 470 4GB is the card to get.
 
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Eh, 460 needs to be as cheap as possible because it's such low performance. :/ I mean it's really only playable in E-sport games. Modern gaming 1080p will wreck it and especially the 2GB vram.
 

jpiniero

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Yea the spacing is strange. 470 is very close to 480

The base clock on the 470 is scary though. The variability of the 470 is probably going to be large, especially given that they are the bad chips on GloFo's mediocre process. It's probally going to be closer to 25% difference.
 

AtenRa

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Eh, 460 needs to be as cheap as possible because it's such low performance. :/ I mean it's really only playable in E-sport games. Modern gaming 1080p will wreck it and especially the 2GB vram.

RX 460 is 75W TDP with performance close to R9 370, that is fine for every DX-12/Vulcan games at 1080p Medium/High for only $99.
 

Yakk

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The RX 460 is based on a small Polaris 11 GPU aimed more at mobile and HTPC applications. So that would explain the difference with the 470 based on a cut down Polaris 10.
 

Sonikku

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If I were AMD I'd probably price the 470 at $175. If the 480 is any indication, it's what they could get. Perf/$ be damned.
 

AtenRa

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The RX 460 is based on a small Polaris 11 GPU aimed more at mobile and HTPC applications. So that would explain the difference with the 470 based on a cut down Polaris 10.

It seems that RX 460 is a cut down Polaris 11 as well and not the full chip.
 

Jaskalas

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Saying that, the 750Ti was very popular, despite being pretty weak.. at the very low end, I don't understand that market. :/

My baby ran WoW maxed until Legion.
It was also an upgrade in power over the 5850 it replaced.

What you need to understand is that 750Ti was plenty good enough, for the price, at the time. Also it was small with low power draw, and made stable a 2007 PC that was mighty unstable. All together it was a perfect fit. And I still use it today.
 
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RX 460 is 75W TDP with performance close to R9 370, that is fine for every DX-12/Vulcan games at 1080p Medium/High for only $99.

Maybe, but we dont really know even that yet. I would assume there will be demanding DX12 games at some point. And of course a lot of legacy (and maybe some new) DX 11 games. Just dont understand limiting yourself like that, when for 50.00 more (assuming it is 150.00 as rumored) you could get a 470 which should handle almost any game at 1080p with high settings.

Edit: the 460 has only 45% of the theoretical compute power of the 470, at 2/3 of the price, so by the performance per dollar metric it isn't attractive at all. It is in much the same position as the 750 Ti when it first came out: great for OEM systems without a 6 pin connector, but a poor value otherwise. In fact, in current DX 11 games, which I think most of the "e-sports" games are, I am not sure it is that much faster than the ancient 750 Ti. Of the 3 cards, 470 4gb seems to me to be the sweet spot.
 
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IEC

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I'm predicting the average RX 470 is actually going to be >15% slower than the average RX 480. The leaked base/boost clocks I've seen seem to be more power optimized.

Hopefully it's closer to $149 than $179.
 

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Well, if anyone makes a low-profile 460, they pretty much have an insta-buy right here. For the 4K decoding HW alone.

It seems that RX 460 is a cut down Polaris 11 as well and not the full chip.

Judging from their own WX4100 specs, Polaris 11 actually has 1024SP. So apparently its only a single CU disabled.
 

guachi

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I'd buy a low profile 460 for 4k for sure.

And I'd probably recommend a 470 for someone who had a 1080/60 Hz monitor.

If a 60Hz monitor is all you can (or wish to) spend, you probably don't need anything better than a 470.
 

crisium

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I think the 460 is a little disappointing

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unlike the 470 and the 480 it doesn't really add more SPs compared to the card it replaces.
edit: I suppose if you consider it to be replacing the 360 I'm wrong, but I tend to ignore that card because of the 260X

it looks like it wont even beat a GTX 950.

but if the price drops a little I could probably see one as a good option for me.

The price point of the RX 460 is what's great, but I agree it looks like in DX11 it will slightly lose to a GTX 950 - which does have no-pin versions available. Disappointing in that regard. But at $99 it's cheaper than the 950s, so this will be the new cheapest HDMI 2.0 card for now.

Low profile version, please.
 

terpsy

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I am hoping to get a RX 470.

How is it compared to a GTX 960?

Thanks!