'Whites Only' swimming pool still exists! WTF?

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peonyu

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I am pretty sure the NAACP would have no issues with a black only swimming pool.


They wouldnt need a sign to advertise it. Sadly, white people are still racists. Even the ones who pretend they are not racist by attacking "racism" all the time usually are the biggest racists out there. You can count the number of African-Americans on 1 hand who live near the white liberal elites in the Government. Those white libs make sure their $$$ buy them a home in a white bricket fence area where their kids can attend a all white private school. Then they bash the "lesser than I" white people who have to live next to ghettos and endure violence as "racists", since those "lesser than I" people tend to build a bad opinion of black people when a ghetto is their only experience of black culture.

Back to my original point though...The NAACP does not need a Blacks only sign for swimming pools. Any pool that is black majority usually has white people scurrying away on 1st sight of it, as though they have just seen the Plague - And then steadfastly heading towards anywhere else that they can swim at [without black people]. Its a observable trend everywhere in this country. Unfortunately I have seen the same thing from Asians and Hispanics so its not only White people who are racist towards black people...But the latter two groups got their racist attitudes from being exposed to white people and their opinions of African-Americans since coming to this country.
 
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peonyu

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As far as the Obama haters go. He is changing this country for the better, like it or not. In a few more generations most of America will be like him anyways, mixed race. And racism will be something that only Europeans will try to keep going [since they will still be mostly white :/].
 

HeXen

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every single race in the world has at one time or another been a slave. leave the past behind you on your way to the future

They wouldnt need a sign to advertise it. Sadly, white people are still racists.

and every race has racists among them. The only sad part is the fact that the very word racism is stereotyped to mean whites hating blacks.
For example. my friend went to a bar in japan once and was refused service. A place like that there never makes the news. If that happened here to a black person...well you see the news before you.
 
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We should not be punished for something that happened over 140 years ago. I am not going to pay for something my great-great-great-grandfather did, forget it, its not going to happen. I am not even going to apologize for it.

Even though I am not proud of slavery, I am not ashamed of it either. Slavery is part of our history. To be ashamed of slavery is to be ashamed of our history. To be ashamed of our history, is to be ashamed of who we are today.

If we want to end racism, then end it. Stop talking in colors, and start talking about people.

Except that there are people who are still alive today who were directly oppressed under Jim Crow laws. You seem to think that everything was fine after slavery ended. It definitely was not and it took another 100 years to even get to the civil rights act to get passed.

It's very convenient to oppress entire demographics for years (well after slavery) and then say well that's it, let's all pretend nothing happened.

You didn't really answer my question, too. Do you consider reparations given to the Japanese American community to be racist?
 

Texashiker

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You didn't really answer my question, too. Do you consider reparations given to the Japanese American community to be racist?

Only if the reparations were given to people who were directly affected.

What are we supposed to do, give reparations to the Japanese American community for the next 200 years?
 
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What kind of reparations do you think that Japanese-American community received? I don't think that most people are for giving directly cash payments to individuals today. Moreover, so if you believe that reparations should be given to people who were directly effected by the internments in WW2, then do you believe that reparations should be given to people who were directly oppressed after slavery and are still alive? Lots of people alive today were living under Jim Crow laws.

But I guess it's a good idea, say that anything that addresses is wrong largely perpetrated against a demographic is racist and then keep saying it until almost everyone dies.
 

Lemon law

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As far as the Obama haters go. He is changing this country for the better, like it or not. In a few more generations most of America will be like him anyways, mixed race. And racism will be something that only Europeans will try to keep going [since they will still be mostly white :/].
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INMO, the second peonyu post that sheds some light on only USA racism.

And maybe its time to be reminded of some Dick Gregory quips. As Dick Gregory observed, in the Southern US States, the whites did not care how close they lived in proximity to blacks. As long as blacks were kept in poverty and at the bottom of the social strata along with "poor white trash" who could at least take some comfort in being superior to any black. With a Jim Crow stable system where separate and inherently unequal educational system kept the races segregated. As Southern whites became the easy bad guys when Dr. Martin Luther King Non-violence propelled the civil rights movement into a critical mass movement.

The other half of the Dick Gregory observation, was that in the Northern States, few cared that blacks of ability and achievement could become wealthy, but hit white panic mode nimby when blacks lived too close in proximity to them. Meaning gasp, their schools were become integrated and their children would have to compete on an equal footing with blacks. And their children would gasp, have to see blacks and whites being evaluated with the content of their character. As we can note Dr. King and the civil rights movement racked up victory after victory in the South, but were totally amazed at the white vitriol they encountered in mayor Richard Daley's Bridgeport neighborhood in Chicago.

Or we can look at our neighbor to the South, namely Mexico as it initially developed faster than the USA. As Spain somewhat sent high status nobles to lead in the conquest of Mexico, but the vast bulk of the numbers were made up very poor males who had zero opportunity in Spain. As the high status males dreamed of being rewarded for their conquest of Mexico so they could return to civilization in Spain, and marry above their class because of achievement. As the bulk of the poor Spaniards simply married the indigenous American Indians of Mexico. A process somewhat duplicated in places South of the USA as those places are more racially mixed than the US is now.

But the handwriting is already on the wall, as new waves of US immigrants, both legal and illegal, will soon topple the WASP dominance as a overwhelming majority.

Ancient Chinese curse, may you live in changing times.
 

waggy

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History is the best judge of it. Slavery, killing N.Americans, holocaust ? What is there to challenge that view..

you are right history is a great judge of it. you do know where white slavetraders got the slaves right? from blacks in Africa. Also i am sure you know that throughout history nearly every race has been a slave and it is still happening to many black, white and other colored.

do i feel bad for past slaves? no not in the slightest.

As for black slaves in the US my family came over after and no they did not own any. By that same reasoning i don't feel any direct blame for them, the N. Americans or even the Japanese during WWII
 

cubby1223

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/16/us/ohio-white-only/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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-The commission initially found the sign reinforced "discrimination actions"
-The defendant has asked the commission to reconsider its earlier ruling

This is going to be filed under my "I just don't fucking care anymore" category.

I, you, no one here has any substantial influence over this.

Seriously, what do you expect will happen now that it is shown to AT P&N?

Are black people being oppressed by this sign? I don't believe so.
 
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cubby1223

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Is it newsworthy that some guy responded to a personal dispute with a racist sign? Not really. But the fact that he responded THAT way confirms for many what they already believed...that racism is still alive and well in our culture, just maybe a little less obvious than it used to be. I think that's why it shows up as "news".

I disagree with your conclusion.

This news article says to me there are more Americans who want to see people equally than their are who want to view the various colors unequally.

(and if anyone wants to get on me for saying "various colors", please tell me what you would say to convey the same message, and I'll say that instead, I don't care)
 

mammador

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They wouldnt need a sign to advertise it. Sadly, white people are still racists. Even the ones who pretend they are not racist by attacking "racism" all the time usually are the biggest racists out there. You can count the number of African-Americans on 1 hand who live near the white liberal elites in the Government. Those white libs make sure their $$$ buy them a home in a white bricket fence area where their kids can attend a all white private school. Then they bash the "lesser than I" white people who have to live next to ghettos and endure violence as "racists", since those "lesser than I" people tend to build a bad opinion of black people when a ghetto is their only experience of black culture.

Back to my original point though...The NAACP does not need a Blacks only sign for swimming pools. Any pool that is black majority usually has white people scurrying away on 1st sight of it, as though they have just seen the Plague - And then steadfastly heading towards anywhere else that they can swim at [without black people]. Its a observable trend everywhere in this country. Unfortunately I have seen the same thing from Asians and Hispanics so its not only White people who are racist towards black people...But the latter two groups got their racist attitudes from being exposed to white people and their opinions of African-Americans since coming to this country.

the concept that prejudice is wrong is a recent one in human history. Most people, despite the common morals of Western society, are still in some sense.

Is this a bad thing? Why is it exactly?
 

Texashiker

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As a Jew, I would become super rich if I could get reparation money from every people group who ever persecuted the Jews. :)

If certain groups had their way, you would probably be getting reparations for jews getting kicked out of england in 1290. Then there was the black death thing where jews were blamed for poisoning wells and spreading the plague.

Wouldn't it be nice to get reparations your entire life for something that happened over 400 years ago?

According to certain groups, that is exactly what is supposed to happen.
 

cybrsage

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If certain groups had their way, you would probably be getting reparations for jews getting kicked out of england in 1290. Then there was the black death thing where jews were blamed for poisoning wells and spreading the plague.

Wouldn't it be nice to get reparations your entire life for something that happened over 400 years ago?

According to certain groups, that is exactly what is supposed to happen.

My personal view is that reperations are stupid, unless made to the immediate party harmed or their immediate children.

That said, if several nations want to each give me a few thousand dollars a month to make themselves feel better, I will allow them to do so. :)