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IndyColtsFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Look! Another partisan hack!

I'm affliated with neither party.

Thats a lie and a half. You completely parrot rightwing talking points everytime you post, so don't even try to pretend. Which is why you use the term Obamessiah, which is pretty much used exclusively by freepers and other rightwing nutjobs.

Your post epitomizes the flawed logic employed by people like you who base their arguments and attacks entirely around labels. Yeah, if you don't support Obama then you must be a "freeper" or "rightwing nutjob."

:roll:

Don't forget that if you don't support the current health care plan, you are either "rich," a "Republican," or "paid off by the health insurance lobby." The left preaches tolerance, which means they are tolerant as long as you agree with them.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: blanghorst
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Look! Another partisan hack!

I'm affliated with neither party.

Thats a lie and a half. You completely parrot rightwing talking points everytime you post, so don't even try to pretend. Which is why you use the term Obamessiah, which is pretty much used exclusively by freepers and other rightwing nutjobs.

Your post epitomizes the flawed logic employed by people like you who base their arguments and attacks entirely around labels. Yeah, if you don't support Obama then you must be a "freeper" or "rightwing nutjob."

:roll:

Don't forget that if you don't support the current health care plan, you are either "rich," a "Republican," or "paid off by the health insurance lobby." The left preaches tolerance, which means they are tolerant as long as you agree with them.

Posh... I just got my Evil Republicans for Health Insurance Lobbyists check yesterday. Don't tell them I'm not a Republican though... I could get used to this lifestyle.
 

coolVariable

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Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Look! Another partisan hack!

I'm affliated with neither party.

Thats a lie and a half. You completely parrot rightwing talking points everytime you post, so don't even try to pretend. Which is why you use the term Obamessiah, which is pretty much used exclusively by freepers and other rightwing nutjobs.

I don't like the very idea of Obama during the campaign and his administration's actions. Many of you are too stupid to realize that Obama is lying right at your face and you don't hold him accountable for it. I shall continue my Obama bashing whenever he fucks up and/or when his Congress spits out shitty legislations.

Don't you get it; disagreeing with Obama -> you're a right-wing, partisan hack nut-job. This makes it very easy for them to dismiss you and your arguments; that way, they don't have to think. They're so obsessed with ?checking the box? on UHC that they couldn?t care less what impact the legislation could have. If you?re not with Obama, you?re against him. If you won?t rubber-stamp the current UHC bill, you want the uninsured to crawl in a corner and die so the Blue Cross can go make obscene profits. You could offer counter solutions, but they would reject them if it was any less than total .gov control.

Yes, I'm being slightly sarcastic here.

But ... but ... but ... he's chosen one.

Well, they are politicians. If it is a gov controlled program, it means that they are in charge.
It's like giving yourself a promotion.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
attend meeting != yell down the opposition

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Also given the republican's propaganda arm is a hell of a lot more effective than the democrats, these townhalls give the representatives an avenue to respond to these concerns. However that doesn't work if the RNC makes sure to shut that down with thugs.

Just called the offices of my congressman and state senators...seems none of them are planning on having meetings.
Do you think maybe thats because they don't give a rats ass what we think?
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
attend meeting != yell down the opposition

http://kimag.es/share/64597051.jpg
http://kimag.es/share/12438262.jpg
http://kimag.es/share/35775744.jpg

Also given the republican's propaganda arm is a hell of a lot more effective than the democrats, these townhalls give the representatives an avenue to respond to these concerns. However that doesn't work if the RNC makes sure to shut that down with thugs.

Just called the offices of my congressman and state senators...seems none of them are planning on having meetings.
Do you think maybe thats because they don't give a rats ass what we think?

Exactly and that is the problem.

They work for us, yet they want us to listen to them and not listen to us. Maybe if they would take the time to listen and address the concerns of their CONSTITUENTS.

It seems that they are trying to get their constituents on board not the way it should be where their constituents try to get them on board. They are not doing what the people want but trying to get people to do what they want.
 

PJABBER

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Malkin is a rabble rouser but she also get some very good inside information out through her work.

Who?s behind the Internet Snitch Brigade

Who's Behind the Internet Snitch Brigade?
Michelle Malkin
August 7, 2009 10:03 AM

Czardom has its privileges. This week, President Obama's health care overlord, Nancy DeParle, launched a taxpayer-funded initiative to recruit an Internet Snitch Brigade that will combat "disinformation about health insurance reform." As the White House explained in a special online bulletin:

"These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain e-mails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an e-mail or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

What will health care czar DeParle do with this information? Where will it be stored? Who has oversight of the czar's powers, budget and personnel? Concerned citizens, alas, will have a hard time tracking down the "Office of Health Care Reform" created by executive order in April. There is no central website for the office, no direct channel for transparency and no congressional accountability.

At least one member of Congress has started asking questions. Texas GOP Sen. John Cornyn sent a letter to Obama demanding that he disband the Internet Snitch Brigade immediately: "By requesting citizens send 'fishy' e-mails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, e-mail addresses, IP addresses and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House," Cornyn wrote. "You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program."

Taxpayers have the right to know what government agencies and third parties the health care czar may share that data with -- and why. Take note: The White House Office of Health Care Reform is working in close quarters with an entirely separate Office of Health Reform created under the Department of Health and Human Services. That office is staffed with several Obama campaign operatives and former employees of the Center for American Progress, including special assistant Michael Halle and HHS Office of Health Reform Director Jeanne Lambrew, a former senior fellow at the Center for American Progress who worked on health policy in the Clinton administration.

CAP is a lead organization in the Health Care for America Now coalition, the "grassroots" lobbying group for Obama's health care takeover legislation run out of 1825 K Street in Washington, D.C., with a $40 million budget. CAP is also the parent group of Think Progress, the far-left website leading the smear campaign against fiscally conservative activists protesting at congressional town halls.

Lawmakers must also dig far beyond the health care czar's flagging operation. Last month, a Washington, D.C., citizen watchdog group filed suit to force the White House to disclose which health care lobbyists and executives it had met with this year to discuss the government health care takeover legislation. White House counsel Greg Craig refused to disclose which administration officials attended the meetings. But at least two of the industry visitors have ties to DeParle.

William C. Weldon is chairman of Johnson & Johnson, which paid DeParle $7,500 for a recent speech. Wayne Smith is chief executive of Community Health Systems, which merged with Triad Hospitals -- where DeParle served on the board of directors. DeParle's options were converted to cash payments worth $1.05 million.

Despite Obama's lip service to transparency, the public is in the dark about which assets DeParle has divested; how many times, if any, DeParle has recused herself from policy matters and meetings; and the exact nature of her conversations with health care executives. While White House press secretary Robert Gibbs lambastes the corporate health care ties of Republican opponents, he has shrugged off the corporate ties of the woman leading the Obamacare charge.

Alert the Internet Snitch Brigade: The fishiest odor is emanating from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Craig234
The medical insurance industry has a massive budget for lying to the American peple to shift the public opinion its way, and has doen so or decades.

Where's the budget for the public interest on the other side? There isn't much of one.

So, to try to battle the propaganda, asking for the public to alert it to the PR activities of the well-funded propagandists is wrong how?

The medical insurance industry has reportedly hired *350 former Congressional members and staffers* for this battle to protect its gouging of the public.

And we have people here who are fighting hard for them to do just that.

What did the medical industry lie about? Where is this massive budget set aside? Do you have any sources to back up your claims?
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
attend meeting != yell down the opposition

http://kimag.es/share/64597051.jpg
http://kimag.es/share/12438262.jpg
http://kimag.es/share/35775744.jpg

Also given the republican's propaganda arm is a hell of a lot more effective than the democrats, these townhalls give the representatives an avenue to respond to these concerns. However that doesn't work if the RNC makes sure to shut that down with thugs.

Just called the offices of my congressman and state senators...seems none of them are planning on having meetings.
Do you think maybe thats because they don't give a rats ass what we think?

No its part of the new transparency thing.
 

rudder

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5 US Code §552a(e)(7) commands that any Federal agency

"(7) maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity;"

$5000 fine per violation.

I wonder how many emails the white house has received. Probably thousands from anandtech forums alone. We may just top a $2 trillion deficit after all.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: rudder
5 US Code §552a(e)(7) commands that any Federal agency

"(7) maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity;"

$5000 fine per violation.

I wonder how many emails the white house has received. Probably thousands from anandtech forums alone. We may just top a $2 trillion deficit after all.

wow good find. Looks like GWB wasnt the only one blatently breaking the law.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Jesus, Obama has really caused the right wing to go off the deep end. You're freaking out about someone forwarding chain emails. I find it fascinating that people who only 9 months or so ago were constantly complaining about 'Bush Derangement Syndrome' have turned into absolute raving lunatics because their party didn't win a presidential election. Take a step back and look at yourselves, aren't you the slightest bit embarrassed?
 

LumbergTech

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Sep 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: coolVariable
Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Look! Another partisan hack!

I'm affliated with neither party.

Thats a lie and a half. You completely parrot rightwing talking points everytime you post, so don't even try to pretend. Which is why you use the term Obamessiah, which is pretty much used exclusively by freepers and other rightwing nutjobs.

I don't like the very idea of Obama during the campaign and his administration's actions. Many of you are too stupid to realize that Obama is lying right at your face and you don't hold him accountable for it. I shall continue my Obama bashing whenever he fucks up and/or when his Congress spits out shitty legislations.

Don't you get it; disagreeing with Obama -> you're a right-wing, partisan hack nut-job. This makes it very easy for them to dismiss you and your arguments; that way, they don't have to think. They're so obsessed with ?checking the box? on UHC that they couldn?t care less what impact the legislation could have. If you?re not with Obama, you?re against him. If you won?t rubber-stamp the current UHC bill, you want the uninsured to crawl in a corner and die so the Blue Cross can go make obscene profits. You could offer counter solutions, but they would reject them if it was any less than total .gov control.

Yes, I'm being slightly sarcastic here.

But ... but ... but ... he's chosen one.

Well, they are politicians. If it is a gov controlled program, it means that they are in charge.
It's like giving yourself a promotion.

care to take your circle jerk out of this thread?
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: tk149
My first reaction to this was WTF? Sounds Orwellian...

But I guess a legitimate reason for this Whitehouse request is just to find out what Americans are talking about, and try to fight FUD.

Still, it's not like the Whitehouse can't assign somebody to look around the internet discussion boards which would tell them what kind of FUD is out there, without linking to a specific person...Why the hell do they want specific emails? I notice they didn't say anything about deleting "From" information in the headers.

Ok, the more I think about it, the creepier this sounds.

i believe there is a law that dictates that nothing on the whitehouse computers can be erased, so once it is there, it is there. something to do w/ not allowing a sitting administration saying "it didn't happen."

wonder what the hdd failure rate is at the white house? and i mean this since the law was on the books...i would bet it is much higher than the average of failures that are in the general public but that is just me.
 

coolVariable

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: coolVariable
Originally posted by: FerrelGeek
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Look! Another partisan hack!

I'm affliated with neither party.

Thats a lie and a half. You completely parrot rightwing talking points everytime you post, so don't even try to pretend. Which is why you use the term Obamessiah, which is pretty much used exclusively by freepers and other rightwing nutjobs.

I don't like the very idea of Obama during the campaign and his administration's actions. Many of you are too stupid to realize that Obama is lying right at your face and you don't hold him accountable for it. I shall continue my Obama bashing whenever he fucks up and/or when his Congress spits out shitty legislations.

Don't you get it; disagreeing with Obama -> you're a right-wing, partisan hack nut-job. This makes it very easy for them to dismiss you and your arguments; that way, they don't have to think. They're so obsessed with ?checking the box? on UHC that they couldn?t care less what impact the legislation could have. If you?re not with Obama, you?re against him. If you won?t rubber-stamp the current UHC bill, you want the uninsured to crawl in a corner and die so the Blue Cross can go make obscene profits. You could offer counter solutions, but they would reject them if it was any less than total .gov control.

Yes, I'm being slightly sarcastic here.

But ... but ... but ... he's chosen one.

Well, they are politicians. If it is a gov controlled program, it means that they are in charge.
It's like giving yourself a promotion.

care to take your circle jerk out of this thread?

Oh - you don't agree?
Did we offend your dear leader?