White supremacists support Obama

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No surprise here considering these idiots like to feel like they're the victim. So long as they have an "oppressor" in power they can get more attention and more followers. No different from Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, who wanted to castrate Obama.


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Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
Buzz up!How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the possibility of America?s first black president? Not necessarily the way you think they would.

By David Peisner

If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and Obama camps probably haven?t factored in the following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size -- limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist -- but just because it wouldn?t fly with Gallup doesn?t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man.

Tom Metzger
Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance

Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists

Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism

Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera?s show in 1988 when Rivera?s nose was broken in a brawl.

?The corporations are running things now, so it?s not going to make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He?s a warmonger. He?s a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists. I?ve got the quote right here: ?I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother?s white race.? The problem with Obama is he?s being dishonest about his racial views. I?d respect him if he?d just come out and say, ?Yeah, I?m a black racist.? I don?t hate black people. I just think it?s in the best interest of the races to be separated as much as possible. See, I?m a leftist. I?m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far more than any black person.?

Ron Edwards
Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America

Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses

Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants

Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation?s largest Klan groups by allowing non-Christians to join.

?Obama, I think he?s a piece of shit. I don?t care that his mother was white. I don?t think he has enough brains to do anything good. All he?s living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don?t think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the booth privately, they?ll vote Republican even if they?re a Democrat. If he wins, I?ll laugh. I don?t like McCain, but he?s the only one I can vote for. He?s against a lot of the things that I?m for. I?m afraid that he?s going to mess with gun laws. But I?m going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too.?

Erich Gliebe
Who: Chairman, National Alliance

Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky

Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media

Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, ?The Aryan Barbarian.?

?Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he?s racially conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities, they?ve been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites, knock some sense into them. They?ll see that non-white Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being attacked as being racist. Let?s face it, white people aren?t going to fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don?t think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He?s all about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that?s not a good thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He?s a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he?s not black enough.?

Rocky Suhayda
Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party

Likes: Hitler, white people

Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: ?If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.?

?White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I?d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have ?made it? immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that?s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it?s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It?d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah.?

Yahanna
Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge

Likes: Segregation

Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr.

Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred changes in the local noise ordinance.

?Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president was one of the saddest days in black history. Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every black leader that has some form of power has given black people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to black people. Black people need to move away from the establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first of all, he?s not even a black man in the terms of what real black people consider a black man. He?s of African and white descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black people. He?s going to have to harm black people to make white people satisfied that he?s not Reverend Wright?s boy. The disappointment we?re going to suffer from him is going to set us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black people.?
 

Baked

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Heard this on NPR yesterday. The progressive white supremacists think if they get Obama elected and he fucks up the country, they (the white supremacists) would have an excuse to start an revolution.
 

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I really enjoyed the likes / dislikes sections - adds some levity when reading about tragic people.

As for the content, I'll continue my present policy of not spending brain cycles pondering the nuances of supremacist groups, thanks.
 

Fern

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Interesting read.

I was suprised to see that a couple of them hold leftist anti-corporatist type views.

Fern
 

Aikouka

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It reminded me of the southern hicks from Zohan with the Likes and Dislikes section :p.
 

yowolabi

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I don't know who those white supremacists, but I assume they're functional if they can organize large groups of people, start profitable record labels, and chair large orgs.

Their "black nationalist" guy is just a crazy person that yells insane rants from street corners.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Fern
Interesting read.

I was suprised to see that a couple of them hold leftist anti-corporatist type views.

Fern

It also puts a crimp into the claim many of the leftists on this board make regarding white supremacy groups being part of the religious right.
 

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Originally posted by: CPA
It also puts a crimp into the claim many of the leftists on this board make regarding white supremacy groups being part of the religious right.

No. It doesn't. And your straw man of the 'religious right' doesn't fly. Here is a sample of your Aryan Progressives ....

Silver Lining
Not All White Supremacists Oppose Black President

With the nomination of Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate clinched, large sections of the white supremacist movement are adopting a surprising attitude: Electing America's first black president could be a very good thing. It's not that the assortment of neo-Nazis, Klansmen, anti-Semites and others who make up this country's radical right have suddenly discovered that a man should be judged based on the content of his character, not his skin. On the contrary. A growing number of white supremacists, and even some of those who pass for intellectual leaders of their movement, think that a black man in the Oval Office would shock white America, possibly drive millions to their cause, and perhaps even set off a race war that, they hope, would ultimately end in Aryan victory.

"He will make things so bad for white people that hopefully they will finally realize how stupid they were for admiring these jigaboos all these years,"

"I hope Obama wins because in four years, white people just might be pissed off enough to actually do something. ? White people aren't going to do a thing until their toys are taken away from them. So things have to be worse for things to be better."

"I am gleefully, sadistically looking forward to Obama as president. ? It will be a beautiful day when the masses look at the paper and truly realize they have lost their own country." ..... "To the average white man and woman, they could look at Obama and see plain as day that whites are not in control."

"Could it be that the nomination of Obama finally sparks a sense of unity in white voters? I would propose that this threat of black, muslim [sic] rule may very well be the thing that finally scares some sense back into complacent whites throughout the nation."

"if Obama were to win, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the Klan. They would have massive growth."

"Obama will be a signal, a clear signal for millions of our people," Duke wrote in an essay entitled "A Black Flag for White America" posted to his website this summer. "Obama is like that new big dark spot on your arm that finally sends you to the doctor for some real medicine. ? Obama is the pain that let's [sic] your body know that something is dreadfully wrong. Obama will let the American people know that there is a real cancer eating away at the heart of our country ....."

"The uprising of the American people for majority-rule and real-democracy has been building, but, with Obama turning the White House into the Black House, the upheaval will be overpowering." Barrett added, "The cataclysm will wake people up and the despotism will drive people to act, as never before."

"Worse is not better. It has already hit rock bottom. The next step is to round up all the whites and put them in concentration camps,"

"Obama as president would do tremendous damage to the cause of maintaining the purity of the white race. Liberals would use him as an example to argue in schools, in churches, on TV, etc., 'Why if your daughter married a black, her child could one day grow up to become President ? like Obama!"

"Well, we all know what happened to the old JFK. I just hope it happens in the timing of RFK BEFORE he can take office,"

"I'm hoping someone will do his public duty of putting a bullet through Obama's head," said a poster identified as "Kill Da *****." Another poster suggested "bring[ing] back lynchings" and concluded with a warning: "LOOK OUT great person. THE KLAN IS GETTING BIGGER!!!!!!"

"ATTENTION, IF OBAMA BECOMES PRESEDANT [sic] I WILL KILL HIM MYSELF MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT."

 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What next, Jews for Hitler?

You know, they actually do exist.

I read of some in Israel, of all places.

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Genx87
What next, Jews for Hitler?

You know, they actually do exist.

I read of some in Israel, of all places.

Fern

Then you read wrong, fascist Jews are a dime a dozen though.

Anti-semistic jews is just made up bullsheit.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Genx87
What next, Jews for Hitler?

You know, they actually do exist.

I read of some in Israel, of all places.

Fern

Then you read wrong, fascist Jews are a dime a dozen though.

Anti-semistic jews is just made up bullsheit.


:roll:

Nope

The Jerusalem Post:police Isrreal has dozens of neo-Nazis

The original picture painted by investigators of a Petah Tikva-based neo-Nazi group has grown more serious in the days since the lifting of a gag order on the subject, as more and more people have submitted complaints to the police claiming that they too fell victim to the violent gang.

police disclosed that information late Monday, hours after Israel Police Insp.-Gen. David Cohen revealed during a pre-Rosh Hashana celebration the bad news that there are "dozens more neo-Nazis in Israel."
Etc Etc

Time Magazine article

But while such ugly outbreaks of anti-Semitic violence are not unknown in Europe or the United States, this one happened in Israel. Not only that, all eight of the gang members arrested (aged between 16 and 21) were themselves Jewish ? at least under Israeli law. One of the suspects is a straight A student in Jewish religious studies, whose grandmother had survived the Holocaust.


Just google it, they are many stories about it in the Israeli press.

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Genx87
What next, Jews for Hitler?

You know, they actually do exist.

I read of some in Israel, of all places.

Fern

Then you read wrong, fascist Jews are a dime a dozen though.

Anti-semistic jews is just made up bullsheit.


:roll:

Nope

The Jerusalem Post:police Isrreal has dozens of neo-Nazis

The original picture painted by investigators of a Petah Tikva-based neo-Nazi group has grown more serious in the days since the lifting of a gag order on the subject, as more and more people have submitted complaints to the police claiming that they too fell victim to the violent gang.

police disclosed that information late Monday, hours after Israel Police Insp.-Gen. David Cohen revealed during a pre-Rosh Hashana celebration the bad news that there are "dozens more neo-Nazis in Israel."
Etc Etc

Time Magazine article

But while such ugly outbreaks of anti-Semitic violence are not unknown in Europe or the United States, this one happened in Israel. Not only that, all eight of the gang members arrested (aged between 16 and 21) were themselves Jewish ? at least under Israeli law. One of the suspects is a straight A student in Jewish religious studies, whose grandmother had survived the Holocaust.


Just google it, they are many stories about it in the Israeli press.

Fern

You obviously have a comprehension problem, READ what i WROTE.

I've got to go now so i might not respond, if you want a response you can PM me with what you got to say or PM me with a link to this thread.

Shalom Aleichem.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Genx87
What next, Jews for Hitler?

You know, they actually do exist.

I read of some in Israel, of all places.

Fern

Those were actually Russians who claimed to be Jewish so they could leave Russia/Ukraine.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Fern
-snip-

You obviously have a comprehension problem, READ what i WROTE.

I've got to go now so i might not respond, if you want a response you can PM me with what you got to say or PM me with a link to this thread.

Shalom Aleichem.

They are attacking Jews ect. In my book, that means anti-Semite. I've never heard of a neo-Nazi that wasn't anti-Semetic {shrug} thought it would be clear as originally posted above.

The alleged ringleader of the group has been seen in home videos displayed on the Internet espousing violent philosophy, and police have reconstructed Internet chats in which he allegedly told would-be followers that they must "erase their [Jews'] religion, to burn their houses and their shelters - I mean their synagogues," as well as saying "I have always been a Nazi and I will always remain one. And I will not rest until we kill them all."

This and other similar info is in the links above. I could quote more, Jews and Synogogues attacked etc. But I see no need.

Fern
 

AstroManLuca

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I don't think that was the point... it's not meant to be a poll, it's meant to give specific examples of how a few racial supremacists are thinking.

What I thought was interesting is that there are even some crazies out there, like these guys, who are still voting based on the issues, not based purely on race. They might have some seriously messed-up beliefs, but even they are able to decide what is most important to them.

I'm guessing that your typical knuckle-dragging KKK member is going to be voting for McCain. But what these guys said is interesting to consider.
 

Genx87

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Good god my jews for hitler comment was supposed to be a joke. Didnt think anybody would take it serious.