White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

JEDIYoda

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anything to start a race war.
You beat me to it! All this is doing is harming Donny Boy......
I would love to be the mouse when Donny calls the leader of that group and says what the hell are you doing??
Hahahahahaaaaa......I have a real feeling that Donny is really screwed! Hid rhetoric is coming back to bite him in the ass!!
 

nickqt

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Blah blah blah, fake news, why are protesters looting stuff if they want to change things, fake news, BothSidesDoIt™, blah blah blah.

Collaborators don't care.
 

Starbuck1975

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anything to start a race war.
There are a lot of predictable but also odd elements looking to capitalize on chaos. White nationalists are going to incite violence because it serves their agenda. Many protestors are attempting to stop and even apprehend the provocateurs.

I read one article yesterday that one of the apprehended provocateurs is a member of some fringe animal rights group.

There was a video floating around yesterday of a petite young woman blocking a group of well equipped and organized looters looking to enter a luxury brand store, and they threw her to the side.

As different cities release arrest data, its also become clear that there are people deliberately and shamelessly treating the chaos as a personal shopping spree.
 

HomerJS

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There are a lot of predictable but also odd elements looking to capitalize on chaos. White nationalists are going to incite violence because it serves their agenda. Many protestors are attempting to stop and even apprehend the provocateurs.

I read one article yesterday that one of the apprehended provocateurs is a member of some fringe animal rights group.

There was a video floating around yesterday of a petite young woman blocking a group of well equipped and organized looters looking to enter a luxury brand store, and they threw her to the side.

As different cities release arrest data, its also become clear that there are people deliberately and shamelessly treating the chaos as a personal shopping spree.
Wonder why Trump won't declare white nationalists a terrorist organization.
 

cytg111

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There are a lot of predictable but also odd elements looking to capitalize on chaos. White nationalists are going to incite violence because it serves their agenda. Many protestors are attempting to stop and even apprehend the provocateurs.

I read one article yesterday that one of the apprehended provocateurs is a member of some fringe animal rights group.

There was a video floating around yesterday of a petite young woman blocking a group of well equipped and organized looters looking to enter a luxury brand store, and they threw her to the side.

As different cities release arrest data, its also become clear that there are people deliberately and shamelessly treating the chaos as a personal shopping spree.
No.
The white nationalists posing as antifa to instigate a civil war is terrorists.
The looters are opportunistic thieves.
I mean, is it my comprehension of the english language that is fucked up? cause some times I wonder...
 

Meghan54

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No.
The white nationalists posing as antifa to instigate a civil war is terrorists.
The looters are opportunistic thieves.
I mean, is it my comprehension of the english language that is fucked up? cause some times I wonder...

No, just his. He twists words into bizarre meanings to suit his current faux beliefs.....but since he has no core values at all, besides belittling everyone of color, his belief system is as loose as goose shit, and his posts reflect just that.
 

Starbuck1975

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No.
The white nationalists posing as antifa to instigate a civil war is terrorists.
The looters are opportunistic thieves.
I mean, is it my comprehension of the english language that is fucked up? cause some times I wonder...
The people burning, destroying and instigating violent confrontations with the police are engaging in terrorism regardless of what political tribe they belong to.
 

Starbuck1975

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No, just his. He twists words into bizarre meanings to suit his current faux beliefs.....but since he has no core values at all, besides belittling everyone of color, his belief system is as loose as goose shit, and his posts reflect just that.
Put down your buckets just long enough to hit the straw man. As always I appreciate your concern.
 

VRAMdemon

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Matt Gaetz is advocating for "Antifa" to be hunted down as terrorists. Twitter covered up his post for inciting violence. And he's going at them repeating his threats over and over again, just daring them.

Does he happen to explain who "Al Antifa" is besides "some looters I saw on TV"? Of course not.

I'd like to see Gaetz pull a Laura Loomer and chain himself to the Twitter headquarters doors.
 

cytg111

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The people burning, destroying and instigating violent confrontations with the police are engaging in terrorism regardless of what political tribe they belong to.

“Anyone provoking rioting and looting or looking to force a response from police”
you said. Now look up definition of terrorism. Get back to us.
 

Starbuck1975

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“Anyone provoking rioting and looting or looking to force a response from police”
you said. Now look up definition of terrorism. Get back to us.
The unlawful use of violence and intimidation to achieve political goals. Since we already know that anarchists and other fringe left groups are contributing to the chaos, my statement stands. I’m going to go for a jog. That should give you plenty of time to move the goal posts.
 

Mai72

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You beat me to it! All this is doing is harming Donny Boy......
I would love to be the mouse when Donny calls the leader of that group and says what the hell are you doing??
Hahahahahaaaaa......I have a real feeling that Donny is really screwed! Hid rhetoric is coming back to bite him in the ass!!

Thought the same. The only reason they did this was because of Trump's comments on Antifa.
 

soundforbjt

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The unlawful use of violence and intimidation to achieve political goals. Since we already know that anarchists and other fringe left groups are contributing to the chaos, my statement stands. I’m going to go for a jog. That should give you plenty of time to move the goal posts.

Only ones contributing to the chaos...? Not the White Nationalists, etc.? Just the left groups.
 

cytg111

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The unlawful use of violence and intimidation to achieve political goals. Since we already know that anarchists and other fringe left groups are contributing to the chaos, my statement stands. I’m going to go for a jog. That should give you plenty of time to move the goal posts.

You stated :

“Anyone provoking rioting and looting or looking to force a response from police”

- Rioting.
- Looting.
- Force response from the police.

From the definition of

"The unlawful use of violence and intimidation to achieve political goals."

None of those three qualifies. Its not up for debate, dont need to respond to it, its a fact as gravity is to mass.

You are wrong.

Goalposts. You then, and I am quoting you from above, go on to expand with :

"Since we already know that anarchists and other fringe left groups are contributing to the chaos"

- Yea, anarchists usually have a political motive.
- Yea, antifa usually have a political motive.
- Yea, neo nazis usually have a political motive.
- Yea, KKK usually have a political motive
- Yea, white supremacy groups usually have a political motive.
- And for some fucked up reason it seems like some cops are undercover with alternative political motives.

So for THOSE groups, engaging in rioting, looting and confronting the authorities is some level of terrorism. Yes.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAID BUCK. you should keep a memo on where you put your own goalposts down.

Anyway, I am sure we can agree there is levels of terror right? I mean .. twin towers, am I right? I mean, they are not exactly al-qaeda material are they?

You sure you still wanna label them terrorists?

Absolutely sure?

Cause, the white supremacists fuckers, the cops posing as antifas and setting shit on fire to get the show going, THOSE fuckers are the closest god damn thing you come to a terrorist in this scenario.

And you fucking know it. Just fucking stop.
 

zzyzxroad

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The unlawful use of violence and intimidation to achieve political goals. Since we already know that anarchists and other fringe left groups are contributing to the chaos, my statement stands. I’m going to go for a jog. That should give you plenty of time to move the goal posts.
I'm way behind on this. What evidence is out there supporting which groups are contributing to the chaos. Do you mind tossing up a link when you have time? You seem well informed.