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Gaard

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This story doesn't say Bonds did steroids, either. Therefore, according to you, it's clear that Bonds didn't do any.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?

According to the documents, Cheney told Libby to pass on portions of the National Intelligence Estimate to the press. Libby apparently wasn't satisfied with that request so Cheney got backing from Bush, then repeated his request to Libby to pass on the information. The president has the authority to declassify, and in fact, days later, the entire intelligence estimate was released to the press. The estimate did not discuss Plame.

Got any evidence otherwise?
We still need the entire 90-page NIE released (and not just the 8 pages of key excerpts kind to this administration's pre-war claims).
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Gaard
This story doesn't say Bonds did steroids, either. Therefore, according to you, it's clear that Bonds didn't do any.

You have lost your mind, completely different subject.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Gaard
This story doesn't say Bonds did steroids, either. Therefore, according to you, it's clear that Bonds didn't do any.
Too bad they don't apply the same type of logic to the WMDs.

Saddam said he didn't have any WMDs. Therefore, it was clear he didn't have any.


But, hypocrisy reigns supreme with some people.
 

jlmadyson

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?

According to the documents, Cheney told Libby to pass on portions of the National Intelligence Estimate to the press. Libby apparently wasn't satisfied with that request so Cheney got backing from Bush, then repeated his request to Libby to pass on the information. The president has the authority to declassify, and in fact, days later, the entire intelligence estimate was released to the press. The estimate did not discuss Plame.

Got any evidence otherwise?
We still need the entire 90-page NIE released (and not just the 8 pages of key excerpts kind to this administration's pre-war claims).

Yep, you have that do you? Does Fitzgerald make that claim in this new revelation, not quite, nothing about Plame as a matter of fact in reference to said NIE.
 

Gaard

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Feb 17, 2002
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I'm just trying to make a point. Because the article doesn't say that Bush authorized the leak, to you it's clear that he didn't. You don't see how illogical this is? A few minutes ago you called Conjur a partisan hack. Don't you realize that this makes you look like one too?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?
According to the documents, Cheney told Libby to pass on portions of the National Intelligence Estimate to the press. Libby apparently wasn't satisfied with that request so Cheney got backing from Bush, then repeated his request to Libby to pass on the information. The president has the authority to declassify, and in fact, days later, the entire intelligence estimate was released to the press. The estimate did not discuss Plame.
Got any evidence otherwise?
We still need the entire 90-page NIE released (and not just the 8 pages of key excerpts kind to this administration's pre-war claims).
Yep, you have that do you? Does Fitzgerald make that claim in this new revelation, not quite, nothing about Plame as a matter of fact in reference to said NIE.
You keep failing to look at the Big Picture. Not uncommon amongst the minority of supporters.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gaard
This story doesn't say Bonds did steroids, either. Therefore, according to you, it's clear that Bonds didn't do any.
Too bad they don't apply the same type of logic to the WMDs.

Saddam said he didn't have any WMDs. Therefore, it was clear he didn't have any.


But, hypocrisy reigns supreme with some people.

Slight difference is there was known stockpiles still unaccounted for and they are still unaccounted for.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gaard
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?
To a Bush-God fanboi, the Propagandist's innocence is always clear.


BTW, I notice people like Genx87 avoid discussing that plane trip to Entebbe. That's where it was all laid out.

People like that are going to WTFU after this is all over and feel exactly like the German people who woke up after supporting Hitler.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Gaard
I'm just trying to make a point. Because the article doesn't say that Bush authorized the leak, to you it's clear that he didn't. You don't see how illogical this is? A few minutes ago you called Conjur a partisan hack. Don't you realize that this makes you look like one too?

How is this illogical? Right now there is no indication he authorized or ordered Plames name leaked. What you want is an ASSumption made. Most ASSumptions make an A$$ out of U and Me.

What this makes me look like or not doesnt matter. I am not here to win friends among this crowd of rabid lefties.

 

BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Gaard
I'm just trying to make a point. Because the article doesn't say that Bush authorized the leak, to you it's clear that he didn't. You don't see how illogical this is? A few minutes ago you called Conjur a partisan hack. Don't you realize that this makes you look like one too?

How is this illogical? Right now there is no indication he authorized or ordered Plames name leaked. What you want is an ASSumption made. Most ASSumptions make an A$$ out of U and Me.

What this makes me look like or not doesnt matter. I am not here to win friends among this crowd of rabid lefties.

You don't need any assumptions to accomplish that feat.
 

jlmadyson

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?
According to the documents, Cheney told Libby to pass on portions of the National Intelligence Estimate to the press. Libby apparently wasn't satisfied with that request so Cheney got backing from Bush, then repeated his request to Libby to pass on the information. The president has the authority to declassify, and in fact, days later, the entire intelligence estimate was released to the press. The estimate did not discuss Plame.
Got any evidence otherwise?
We still need the entire 90-page NIE released (and not just the 8 pages of key excerpts kind to this administration's pre-war claims).
Yep, you have that do you? Does Fitzgerald make that claim in this new revelation, not quite, nothing about Plame as a matter of fact in reference to said NIE.
You keep failing to look at the Big Picture. Not uncommon amongst the minority of supporters.


No the Big Picture is your picture, when this is all said in done, years down the road, maybe then we will have the Real Picture. That picture is the one I?m concerned about, not a speculative picture as you are trying to paint. I'm concerned that others were involved and not necessarily just those in the White House, but still that is speculation, one has to wonder why he has yet to charge anyone with the original charge, conspiracy or not, he can charge those responsible if he wants. The speculative picture isn't uncommon amongst the critics.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: JacobJ
Originally posted by: dahunan
I read that this morning.... They are working with all of their lawyers to redefine treason like they redefined torture.
You mean like how they redefined 'domestic spying' and 'enemy combatant'?

Or like how they tried to redefine "manufacturing"?
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Try to get an original thought. Oh, that's right, the only original ideas you have come from the White House propaganda machine.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: JacobJ
Originally posted by: dahunan
I read that this morning.... They are working with all of their lawyers to redefine treason like they redefined torture.
You mean like how they redefined 'domestic spying' and 'enemy combatant'?

Or like how they tried to redefine "manufacturing"?

Yep, like manufacuring hamburgers at McDonalds. :roll:
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Yeehaahh, here come the "3rd grade comebacks". I thought you claimed to have outgrown those?? ;)
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Try to get an original thought. Oh, that's right, the only original ideas you have come from the White House propaganda machine.


Awe are you taking your toys home with you?
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Yeehaahh, here come the "3rd grade comebacks". I thought you claimed to have outgrown those?? ;)

Sometimes I like to regress and come down to others levels.

 

Gaard

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Feb 17, 2002
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There is no proof that W and Jeff Gannon didn't have a little 'liaison' in Lincoln's bedroom. Therefore, it's clear that they did.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Gaard
There is no proof that W and Jeff Gannon didn't have a little 'liaison' in Lincoln's bedroom. Therefore, it's clear that they did.

Here we go again
 

BBond

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Yeehaahh, here come the "3rd grade comebacks". I thought you claimed to have outgrown those?? ;)

Sometimes I like to regress and come down to others levels.

You can't regress until you improve. You're not regressing, you're just marking time.

 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
What feat is that? Make an A$$ out of U?

Mission Accomplished!

Yeehaahh, here come the "3rd grade comebacks". I thought you claimed to have outgrown those?? ;)

Sometimes I like to regress and come down to others levels.

You can't regress until you improve. You're not regressing, you're just marking time.

That is your opinion when looking up.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Genx - "Uh this latest revelation has nothing to do with Plame and it is clear Bush didnt give the authorization to leak her name."

Why do you say it's clear?
According to the documents, Cheney told Libby to pass on portions of the National Intelligence Estimate to the press. Libby apparently wasn't satisfied with that request so Cheney got backing from Bush, then repeated his request to Libby to pass on the information. The president has the authority to declassify, and in fact, days later, the entire intelligence estimate was released to the press. The estimate did not discuss Plame.
Got any evidence otherwise?
We still need the entire 90-page NIE released (and not just the 8 pages of key excerpts kind to this administration's pre-war claims).
Yep, you have that do you? Does Fitzgerald make that claim in this new revelation, not quite, nothing about Plame as a matter of fact in reference to said NIE.
You keep failing to look at the Big Picture. Not uncommon amongst the minority of supporters.

LOL that's like 2 or 3 threads in the last few days conjur spouts nonsense then brings out the "Big Picture" line. Whammy!