TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
Refusal? No. It's not as if the Democrats didn't try. They tried and failed.Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
TastesLikeChcken said:
Let's not wear blinders and pretend it's just the GOP. Both sides are playing partisan games with this war and games that are solely for their own benefit.
What "blinders" are these?. Thats all you focused on in your reply the old "Democrats and Republicans do it to" meme?. It's old news, you seem to be preaching to the choir.
It's pretty obvious many Democrats will allow themselves to be persuaded by the Gen. Petraeus presentation and thus will support the same continuation of the occupation of Iraq. The incumbency of the Congressional Democratic majority has been marked by one salient feature - the refusal to directly confront the president on any subject of substance.
al Maliki needs to be gone anyway, imo. His refusal to reign in the Shi'ite militias, in particular al Sadr, at the beginning of his term spelled failure for him in the long run.Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin are calling for al-Maliki's ouster as a way of attacking Bush's Iraq policy. But do they understand the consequences?. But, of course, it's not just Democrats who have turned on Maliki. John Warner, told "Meet the Press" Sunday that the "partnership we formed with the Maliki government" had "failed."
The American search for a scapegoat in Iraq is a bipartisan effort, in other words, and Maliki seems to fit the bill, especially since his political support is collapsing at home. He was dealt a new blow Tuesday when clashes between Shiite militiamen, security forces and pilgrims left 26 dead in the sacred city of Karbala, forcing the evacuation of 1 million pilgrims and the cancellation of one of Shia Islam's holiest festivals. If a Shiite prime minister can't keep order in a Shiite city, what chance does he stand against his critics at home and abroad?
Didn't Allawi's block recently withdraw from the government along with the Accord Front?The pressure now coming from Congress to replace Maliki is also unlikely to produce positive change. Although any 55 parliamentarians may introduce a vote of no confidence, at this point it's hard to see how Maliki's Iraqi critics could overcome their own divisions to form the majority vote needed to unseat him. Nor is there an obvious, tested alternative who would have more chance of achieving Bush's benchmarks
It seems the Bush admin. would like to replace him with a secular strongman like Ayad Allawi. Allawi has hired a fancy Washington public relations firm and is among four Iraqi politicians aiming to bring down Maliki and take his place. But Allawi, an ex-Baathist, Shiite secularist and old-time CIA asset, only has 25 seats in parliament and does not have the popularity to come to power by democratic means. And if the Bush team wants to support the call for new elections its likely Al Sadr would. Who do ya think would fill that political power vacuum.
They have two choices if they are to get rid of Maliki - they can either pick from the existing pool, if they want to make it quick, or hold new elections early. Either way, it doesn't seem Bush has had all that much influence with the Iraqi government thus far so why should it be assumed he will have any in the future?
Yep. Bush is going down in flames any day now, just like Iraq. I know this for a fact because we've been told that for some years now. 😉Also, it's not "partisan" to question Bush's recent speech invoking Vietnam. It's an observation of tactic of this partcular individual. Frameing it that way is mistaken & old hat. Its one reason 70 odd % of the country isn't listening to him anymore.
The fact is that no one can really predict whether our slow phased out military departure will cause such a blood bath. Moreover, it is now obvious that the political and sectarian schisms that could lead to it will not heal themselves. As Gen. Petraeus has admitted, it might take a decade to achieve real stability in Iraq. In other words, Bush is asking the U.S. to keep troops in Iraq, possibly indefinitely, in an attempt to forestall an outcome that might never happen - precisely what he argues we should have done in Vietnam.
This is not a scenario that Congress or the American people are going to accept. Not even Bush's appeals to the War Myth. In some part of his brain, Bush he's gotta know this - which explains his other motivation for invoking Vietnam and attacking war critics as defeatists. He is planting the seeds of a resentful revisionism, a stab in the back II.
The climax of the slow-motion debate over Iraq is approaching. At some point in the near future, it will become inescapably obvious even to congressional Republicans, who hold the key to the decision to go in a new direction with this occupation. Bush will continue to proclaim that victory is within sight and accuse his critics of being defeatists.
But the War Myth cannot save him forever, because he's overused it. It will buy him a few weeks or months of breathing space, but even the talismanic power of the War Myth dissipates if people realize it has been used in a cheap, propagandistic way.