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justoh

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How about you channel your arrogance into coming up with one plausible alternative like I have asked multiple times? Just one, if you can manage.

Now you seem to be confusing possible with plausible. Guess I gave you way too much credit. You aren't trolling after all. I was wrong. See how easy it is to admit to making a mistake? Have you ever acknowledged an error on your part? (Yes/ no)
 

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Now you seem to be confusing possible with plausible. Guess I gave you way too much credit. You aren't trolling after all. I was wrong. See how easy it is to admit to making a mistake? Have you ever acknowledged an error on your part? (Yes/ no)
Yes. I'll settle for possible just for kicks.
 

justoh

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Yes. I'll settle for possible just for kicks.

Do you not realize that it only needs to be possible, not plausible? Logic doesn't exist merely for your amusement. And you call me arrogant. da fuq is that about? Is there anyone in the thread who you haven't insulted, ironically? The same people who have been offering possible alternatives all week long.
 

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Do you not realize that it only needs to be possible, not plausible? Logic doesn't exist merely for your amusement. And you call me arrogant. da fuq is that about? Is there anyone in the thread who you haven't insulted, ironically? The same people who have been offering possible alternatives all week long.
Not a single possible alternative has been offered in this thread. Put up or shut up. I said I will settle for possible if that floats your boat. Stop stalling and post up a possible explanation for why Waggy chose that statement to extend the logic when he didn't think they were equal statements.
 

justoh

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Not a single possible alternative has been offered in this thread. Put up or shut up. I said I will settle for possible if that floats your boat. Stop stalling and post up a possible explanation for why Waggy chose that statement to extend the logic when he didn't think they were equal statements.

Do you not realize that it only needs to be possible, not plausible? Logic doesn't exist merely for your amusement. And you call me arrogant. da fuq is that about? Is there anyone in the thread who you haven't insulted, ironically? The same people who have been offering possible alternatives all week long.
 

dank69

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Do you not realize that it only needs to be possible, not plausible? Logic doesn't exist merely for your amusement. And you call me arrogant. da fuq is that about? Is there anyone in the thread who you haven't insulted, ironically? The same people who have been offering possible alternatives all week long.
Still stalling I see. What's wrong? Can't find a possible alternative? If your next post doesn't contain a possible alternative I'll take that as a concession that you cannot think of a single one.
 

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How doesn't it? Isn't extending to a logical conclusion a form of extension?
The way you posted seemed like you were accusing me of reductio ad absurdum. I did not employ this technique because it would not make sense for my case. If you meant that brief comment to mean that Waggy's argument was a reductio ad absurdum, then yes I agree. I stated it was such way back in the beginning.
 

TerryMathews

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The way you posted seemed like you were accusing me of reductio ad absurdum. I did not employ this technique because it would not make sense for my case. If you meant that brief comment to mean that Waggy's argument was a reductio ad absurdum, then yes I agree. I stated it was such way back in the beginning.
You need to read the specific section of your post I quoted when I said that. I was refuting your erroneous statement.
 

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You need to read the specific section of your post I quoted when I said that. I was refuting your erroneous statement.
And that's what does not make sense. There are two possibilities for extending logic: using equivalent statements and using inequivalent statements. Using inequivalent statements would not achieve the desired effect as it would be nonsensical. Stating the name of the type of argument I am discussing does not refute my statement about it. I am not sure why you think it would.
 

justoh

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Still stalling I see. What's wrong? Can't find a possible alternative? If your next post doesn't contain a possible alternative I'll take that as a concession that you cannot think of a single one.

If you must
 

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If you must
What a surprise, you can't think of one. I even allowed possible just for you already knowing you still wouldn't find one. I expect you'll fuck off now with your tail between your legs like a decent human being? No? Just harp on the word must some more even though there is no alternative? Let me guess, did your mommy once tell you that there are no certainties in life? LOL. You give liberals a bad name.
 

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And that's what does not make sense. There are two possibilities for extending logic: using equivalent statements and using inequivalent statements. Using inequivalent statements would not achieve the desired effect as it would be nonsensical. Stating the name of the type of argument I am discussing does not refute my statement about it. I am not sure why you think it would.
Your original statement was that the only way to extend logic is through equivalent statements. Clearly false, as reductio ad absurdum is another valid method.
 

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Your original statement was that the only way to extend logic is through equivalent statements. Clearly false, as reductio ad absurdum is another valid method.
Clearly you don't know what reductio ad absurdum means. Clearly you think it means "to make inequivalent statements." LOL.
 

justoh

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What a surprise, you can't think of one. I even allowed possible just for you already knowing you still wouldn't find one. I expect you'll fuck off now with your tail between your legs like a decent human being? No? Just harp on the word must some more even though there is no alternative? Let me guess, did your mommy once tell you that there are no certainties in life? LOL. You give liberals a bad name.

Yeah. It must be the case that I can't think of one.

Allowed? So to paraphrase. "It's impossible that waggy doesn't think/believe something. If it was possible then please give me a plausible alternative. I'll allow possible for shits and giggles. I don't know the difference between possible and plausible or i don't think it matters when I'm the one claiming it's impossible."
 

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Yeah. It must be the case that I can't think of one.

Allowed? So to paraphrase. "It's impossible that waggy doesn't think/believe something. If it was possible then please give me a plausible alternative. I'll allow possible for shits and giggles. I don't know the difference between possible and plausible or i don't think it matters when I'm the one claiming it's impossible."
I live in reality. It's possible that you have a purple elephant sitting on your head right not but it is implausible. I allowed it because I know how far into implausibility you have to venture in order to come up with a possibility, and they will all make you look stupid. Go ahead, one possibility. Stop stalling with this irrelevant distraction of plausibility vs. possibility.
 

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

I am quite comfortable with my understanding of what it means.

Clearly you are not as smart as you think you are. Lol
Thank you for showing you know how to Google. If you were comfortable with the definition you would know that reductio ad absurdum is not different from extending logic with equivalent statements, it's actually the same thing. LOL indeed.
 

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Apparently he's not even as smart as I thought he was. Is he always like this? I'm kind of new.
Belligerent towards ignorant arrogance? Yes, that is me in a nutshell, especially when I was the one attacked first, over and over.
 

TerryMathews

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Thank you for showing you know how to Google. If you were comfortable with the definition you would know that reductio ad absurdum is not different from extending logic with equivalent statements, it's actually the same thing. LOL indeed.

No, its not. Lol indeed.
 

justoh

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Thank you for showing you know how to Google. If you were comfortable with the definition you would know that reductio ad absurdum is not different from extending logic with equivalent statements, it's actually the same thing. LOL indeed.

How could it be an extension if it's the equivalent statement? That's like saying you had a penis enlargement to the same size. What do you mean when you say statements are equal? Something other than that they're equal, i'm assuming.

list of words for you to look up:

must
equal
arrogant
possible
plausible

What did you say your first language was again?
 

dank69

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No, its not. Lol indeed.

Educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

If you use inequivalent statements in your reductio you end up with a straw-man:
A fallacious argument similar to reductio ad absurdum often seen in polemical debate is the straw man logical fallacy.[5] A straw man argument attempts to refute a given proposition by showing that a slightly different or inaccurate form of the proposition (the "straw man") has an absurd, unpleasant, or ridiculous consequence, relying on the audience not to notice that the argument does not actually apply to the original proposition.

Not that you will be able to understand any of this.
 

justoh

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Says the guy who doesn't understand what it means for two statements to be equal.

That's why I asked you... if your next post doesn't contain an answer i'll take it as a concession that english isn't your first language.