Whipping the Bunny - Here are Your Right-Wing Christians

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Good grief, I don't disagree with any of that. I just tired to point out to you that the uniting principle is belief, not non belief, the belief that what you believe is more important than human life. An atheist who has another form of religion is still a believer, just not a believer in God. The problem is not that he doesn't believe in God but that he believes in something else the true nature of which he may equally rationalize. All you are telling me is that humanity is mentally ill. I already knew that. But I'm suggesting that by blaming atheism or religion for any of this is to miss the mark. The cause goes back to self-hate. It is that to which we turn a blind eye. We have met the enemy and he is us. The real war is to be fought within oneself. The problem is not out there. I am suggesting that the religious person and the atheist suffer from exactly the same disease and they are fundamentally identical.

i am not blaming atheism genrally, i am blaming militant(politicized) atheism. i think that is like the 10th time i have had to repeat that. whatever motivation it's individuals may have militant atheism is still a singular exclusivistic view that dominates other views by force through state sanction. you have not been able to refute this simple fact.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How many times do you need to be told that Atheism is the absesnce of the belief in God. It is not the belief that God doesn't exist. The belief that God doesn't exist is bigotry. You are not a believer in the non existance of the tooth fairy. You don't go around preaching that the tooth fairy doesn't exist. You don't sit around all day telling yourself there is no tooth fairy. You seldom if ever think about the tooth fairy. You don't believe in the tooth fairy and have left all notion of the tooth fairy behind. The tooth fairy is not a part of your daily experience. The toothfairy is absent from your life. Its the same for an atheist with God. And his real name is Mogogo, by the way. You didn't know you're a believer in Mogogo, did you.

if atheists did not spend alot of time preaching the idea that there is no God you would have a point, but they do. we se it on this board even all the time whenever a discussion about God comes up an atheist invariably pops in with the definitive claim "there is no God" now follow your own logic to it's conclusion and see you prove yourself wrong.

They are just upset, like you are about communists, about all the killing done in the name of religion. If you blame them for that you would have to blame yourself too, no?

 

[DealMonkey]

I think this "Whipping the Bunny" thread jumped the shark about 50 posts ago.

 

[sandorski]

OMFG make it stop!!!

Does it matter who or what is worse when they have all committed such repugnant acts?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: sandorski
OMFG make it stop!!!

Does it matter who or what is worse when they have all committed such repugnant acts?

It doesn't matter who or what; it matters why.

 

[alzan]

Originally posted by: JackStorm
Oh, or how about this: We all just acknowledge that humans are inherently evil regardless of religion or lack thereof.

Thank you; couldn't have said it better.

alzan

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

They are just upset, like you are about communists, about all the killing done in the name of religion. If you blame them for that you would have to blame yourself too, no?

my point exactly! i am glad you understand that! and if you read my previous posts you will find me putting militant atheism right there with other militant religous views the whole time.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

They are just upset, like you are about communists, about all the killing done in the name of religion. If you blame them for that you would have to blame yourself too, no?

my point exactly! i am glad you understand that! and if you read my previous posts you will find me putting militant atheism right there with other militant religous views the whole time.

Yes and now we need to get below words like militant and find our what is the source of that because militant is just a symptom.
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Oh, or how about this: We all just acknowledge that humans are inherently evil regardless of religion or lack thereof.
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Except that humans are inherently good but grow up in a world that always makes them evil. It is put-downs that make people evil and everybody was put down.