Which will be better

[dguy6789]

Look at the friggen pics. Halo 2 looks very comparable to half life 2. Havent seen water in halo 2 so dont know about that, but as far as environments and player models, halo 2 looks every bit as good as half life 2.

Hardware doesnt matter as much as you think. Since the xbox is stationary hardware, developers can take full advantage of it and not have to worry that someone will have something too slow to run it.

Physics wise, halo 2 already has half life 2 beat, as the environments are fully destructable, you can blow out chunks of a wall with a greneade or rocket launcher, and all veichles have realistc physics, where you shoot a veichle is where parts fall off.

Dont get me wrong, I intend to get both games and play them both, but Halo 2 looks to be better summing up all the info around on both of them.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

SOFTWARE FORUM.

- M4H

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Look at the friggen pics. Halo 2 looks very comparable to half life 2. Havent seen water in halo 2 so dont know about that, but as far as environments and player models, halo 2 looks every bit as good as half life 2.

Hardware doesnt matter as much as you think. Since the xbox is stationary hardware, developers can take full advantage of it and not have to worry that someone will have something too slow to run it.

Physics wise, halo 2 already has half life 2 beat, as the environments are fully destructable, you can blow out chunks of a wall with a greneade or rocket launcher, and all veichles have realistc physics, where you shoot a veichle is where parts fall off.

Dont get me wrong, I intend to get both games and play them both, but Halo 2 looks to be better summing up all the info around on both of them.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/...2389820.html?fromint=1

http://media.xbox.ign.com/medi...82228/img_2371770.html

These are 2 images. One is halo 2 on an xbox, while one is on a 3ghz+ pc with a radeon 9800 based video card.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

With Halo 2 restricted to the XBox you already have a limmited number of customers. Practically every XBox owner would have to buy Halo 2 in order to compete with HL2 assuming that its going to nearly as successful as the first Half Life.

Although I guess if you count CS:S as part of HalfLife2 then its a no brainer...

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

i think HL2 will be the better game, by a wide margin too.

To play devil's advocate here, you do realize that Bungie was making kick @ss games when Gabe was still a slender and honest young man right? Their games are normally considered classics and respective high points in their genre upon initial release. They have proven themselves time and time again, Valve has done it once. I'm really hoping they both turn out incredible, and am honestly looking forward more to HL2 then Halo2(that would be a lot harder if they were both hitting the PC though) but I certainly won't rule out the possibility that Halo2 ends up as the overall better game.

I remember Bungie back in the Mac days, when I played Myth and Marathon on my G3 (the last Mac I'd own, and the last Mac I'd ever want to own). What a coup Microsoft did buying Bungie; thank god it wasn't Blizzard, at least .

Also, to be fair, did the bolded situation ever happen ?


Personally I think HL2 will be better (development time and relation to HL1 and all), but Halo was one of my favourite games of all time, and I think Halo2 will kick major butt.

However, HL2 definately looks revolutionary, while Halo2 seems much more evolutionary. Consider the time between the first game in each series; HL2 has been a longer time coming, for sure.

 

[lrmat]

what somepeople don't understand or can't comprehend is that half-life changed the first person shooter, the only reason halo was as good as it was, was because bungie followed the trail created by half-life. ther was no fps before hl that immersed you in the story or that kept up the pace or seemlessly went from level to level to keep you in the story until halo. i loved halo but the reason i loved it was because it was a natural progression from half-life.

half-life is (to me) the best game and gsming experience i've ever had, next would be metal gear solid, then halo a very close third.

i have half-life 2 sitting on my hard-drive waiting to be unlocked and as soon as halo2 is released, i will be on that b!tch too. it's win-win for me.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Look at the friggen pics. Halo 2 looks very comparable to half life 2. Havent seen water in halo 2 so dont know about that, but as far as environments and player models, halo 2 looks every bit as good as half life 2.

Hardware doesnt matter as much as you think. Since the xbox is stationary hardware, developers can take full advantage of it and not have to worry that someone will have something too slow to run it.

Physics wise, halo 2 already has half life 2 beat, as the environments are fully destructable, you can blow out chunks of a wall with a greneade or rocket launcher, and all veichles have realistc physics, where you shoot a veichle is where parts fall off.

Dont get me wrong, I intend to get both games and play them both, but Halo 2 looks to be better summing up all the info around on both of them.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/...2389820.html?fromint=1

http://media.xbox.ign.com/medi...82228/img_2371770.html

These are 2 images. One is halo 2 on an xbox, while one is on a 3ghz+ pc with a radeon 9800 based video card.

Naturally, one thing that those pictures can't tell you anything about is resolution... Even besides that Half-Life 2 looks better than Halo 2 to me (other opinions welcome).

What really killed the XBox lately was Doom 3... it had to be scaled back quite far to run on the XBox, and doesn't look anything like what it looks like on the PC. I just don't see any reason to believe that the XBox can compete with the PC graphics-wise, regardless of the game. Now, granted, the XBox only costs $150, but that's besides the point (I'm not arguing about cost-effectiveness here).

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman

What really killed the XBox lately was Doom 3... it had to be scaled back quite far to run on the XBox, and doesn't look anything like what it looks like on the PC.

Link?

 

[BW86]

Half-life 2
Half-life 2

 

[yhelothar]

HL2 will be better
Halo2 will sell more, not really because of piracy, but because there are more console gamers than pc gamers. Period.

 

[CraigRT]

I am guessing Halo 2 will be better just to be different.
how the hell would I know which will be better?

I wasn't horribly impressed with what I saw from HL2, but who knows, I'll have to play it... Halo was amazing for Xbox, if they can do it again, Halo2 will be badass.

 

[nitromullet]

Naturally, one thing that those pictures can't tell you anything about is resolution... Even besides that Half-Life 2 looks better than Halo 2 to me (other opinions welcome).

HL2 should look better than Halo2... The hardware is much better. I could sell just the graphics card in my PC and pick up 2 XBoxen for the money I would get.

Another thing to remember is the different advantages of each platform. My room mate and I have both an XBox and PC's (at one time there was a PS2 as well, but that room mate moved), and we play different types of games on the different platforms. We have UT2004 for PC and UT Chanpionship for XBox, and we simply can't stand the XBox port, it's slow and difficult to control with the controller vs. a mouse/keyboard. On the otherhand, SSX3, Top Spin, and Soul Calibur II absolutely rock on XBox. You simply can't imagine these games on a PC. I'll probably get Halo2 for XBox and play it it co-op mode, and I've already got the Silver HL2 Package in Steam, so I hope they are both good.

 

[nitromullet]

I have yet to ask anyone in GameStop that knew anything about HL2(at this point I ask for amusement's sake).

As long as we both find amusement in the fact that GameStop doesn't know anything about HL2. I wasn't serioulsy suggesting that you stop shopping at stores you like. The knowledge of salespeople (or lack thereof) has almost never altered my dicision to shop somewhere, since I generally know what I want and need very little assistance. This, coincidenly, is one of the wonderful things about Steam... No salespeople, no question of avaialbility, when it's released I get it. I really hope Steam works well for Valve and and it's customers. It would be nice to see this type of delivery become the norm.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Naturally, one thing that those pictures can't tell you anything about is resolution... Even besides that Half-Life 2 looks better than Halo 2 to me (other opinions welcome).

HL2 should look better than Halo2... The hardware is much better. I could sell just the graphics card in my PC and pick up 2 XBoxen for the money I would get.

Another thing to remember is the different advantages of each platform. My room mate and I have both an XBox and PC's (at one time there was a PS2 as well, but that room mate moved), and we play different types of games on the different platforms. We have UT2004 for PC and UT Tournament for XBox, and we simply can't stand the XBox port, it's slow and difficult to control with the controller vs. a mouse/keyboard. On the otherhand, SSX3, Top Spin, and Soul Calibur II absolutely rock on XBox. You simply can't imagine these games on a PC. I'll probably get Halo2 for XBox and play it it co-op mode, and I've already got the Silver HL2 Package in Steam, so I hope they are both good.

Yes, I know... But take a look at what I was replying to.

Link?

To be honest, I had read this somewhere and taken a quick glance at some SS's...

http://www.gamepro.com/screen_...stext=Xbox&family=

They don't look THAT bad, I guess, but they also don't look like Doom 3 on the PC.

 

[gururu]

pcgamer just called hl2 "the most important game you'll ever play". over time, hl2 sales will surpass halo2, which will sell a ton at release

 

[Drayvn]

IT really does look very VERY ugly.

What i really like is that Chronicles of Riddick looks HELLUVA lot better than Doom 3 on the Xbox, and i cant wait to see what it looks like on PC as its release date is in December, it could maybe beat Doom 3, because it looks fantastic on the Xbox.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
there are more console gamers than pc gamers. Period.

If Halo 2 was coming to PS2, then maybe, but no, you seem to be forgetting this is exclusive on the XBox which is the #3 console in the world...

 

[Theodoor]

Guys!!! the thing is pc gamers must invest 5x what console gamers pay for a game. Half life was great when it came out just like Halo. The only way to realistically compare sales is counting out piracy! 'cuz these days there might be 3 or 4 times the amount of people that have halflife2 then halo2 but, of those who have halflife2, only less then half own the game since it's easy to copy pc games.

ps: I hope the security that has been used in such games like Desert Rats and Codename Panzers is applied to Halflife2. Then we might have a fairer comparison between the two. I find very lame the kind of enemies that are used in these games!!! In Hf2 those frikkin' grasshopper lokalikes and in halo those stupid covenant troops!!! I guess only George Lucas has the brains to make a 89year old Christopher Lee look like the devil himself
BAD GUYS ARE SUPPOST TO BE SCARY AND EVIL NOT LIKE ANTS WITH A ROCKET LUNCHER!!!!!!!
BUT I GUESS I'M ALONE IN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:thumbsdown:

 

[JBT]

HL2 will rock the socks off Halo 2. I'm sure Halo will be good but I think HL2 will be a very good game. As for Sales Halo might beat it in that for the obvious reasons of console's having a larger user base.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Theodoor
Guys!!! the thing is pc gamers must invest 5x what console gamers pay for a game. Half life was great when it came out just like Halo. The only way to realistically compare sales is counting out piracy! 'cuz these days there might be 3 or 4 times the amount of people that have halflife2 then halo2 but, of those who have halflife2, only less then half own the game since it's easy to copy pc games.

ps: I hope the security that has been used in such games like Desert Rats and Codename Panzers is applied to Halflife2. Then we might have a fairer comparison between the two. I find very lame the kind of enemies that are used in these games!!! In Hf2 those frikkin' grasshopper lokalikes and in halo those stupid covenant troops!!! I guess only George Lucas has the brains to make a 89year old Christopher Lee look like the devil himself
BAD GUYS ARE SUPPOST TO BE SCARY AND EVIL NOT LIKE ANTS WITH A ROCKET LUNCHER!!!!!!!
BUT I GUESS I'M ALONE IN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:thumbsdown:

I don't think HL2 will be crackable. If someone does get around to cracking it, they will have a tough time trying to play it due to Steam and VAC. Just my opinion.

But I do think that honestly overtime HL2 will be Halo 2 in overall sales and will be a better game.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
there are more console gamers than pc gamers. Period.

If Halo 2 was coming to PS2, then maybe, but no, you seem to be forgetting this is exclusive on the XBox which is the #3 console in the world...

Nope wrong.

PS2 is in the lead, but xbox is in second and rapidly(faster then ps2) eating ps2's marketshare. Gamecube has less then 10% of that marketshare, while the rest is between ps2 and xbox with ps2 having more.

 

[Gagabiji]

Halo was ok, and Halo 2 looks a bit better but Half-Life 2 looks to be a much more realistic game and much more fun.

 

[lnin0]

Sales of Halo 1 where close to 2.5 million copies by mid-2003. Even since then the game has remained in the top 10 (usually top 5) best selling Xbox games every month accourding the the NPD numbers. Usually around 100,000 a month I would guess. So the game has staying power - that is for sure. I think everyone who buys a new Xbox buys that game along with it.

As for Halo 2, Bungie already is reporting record pre-orders of 1.5 million (that is copies pre-sold - not just being shipped to retailers). How does Steams pre-sales compare to that..granted Halo2 has had years to build up to that amount while Half-Life 2 has only had a month.

I don't think Halo 2 will have problems selling massive amounts but in the long run you have to look at when the Xbox 2 is phased in and if it and Live will be backwards compatible. If that is the case I think Halo2 easily beats HL2 in sales. Otherwise it is probably a toss up.

 

[Acanthus]

Half life 2 will have better graphics, Halo 2 will be better in every single other category.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Half life 2 will have better graphics, Halo 2 will be better in every single other category.

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