Which video card is better?

[Rhin0]

Hey guys,

I am getting my old computer together as a spare for my friends to game on when we played. It is:

Celeron 300A overclocked to 450mhz
Abit BH-6
256mb PC100 RAM
13 gig 5400 RPM drive

Ok so which of these AGP cards will peform better in this machine? I currently have the Voodoo5 5500 64mb in there. On Half-life though some of the textures look funny compared to newer cards. I can tell this isn't DX8 hardware but it worked fine on HL, DOD3.1, CS 1.5, Vampire slayer, action HL, UT, and Rogue spear. Those are what we play.

Which do you think will work better? I'm thinking the Geforce will give better graphic quality and support all the graphics

let me know what you guys think

Rhin0

 

[Tarrant64]

Probably the Geforce 440mx.

Wow...Voodoo.

 

[sparkyclarky]

The nVidia card is preferable for driver reasons alone (as 3dfx has been out of business since november of 2000). If you played old glide games, then the 3dfx would be a better choice, but I doubt you do that. Additionally, the nV card has what is effectively twice as much video RAM as the SLId 3dfx card (which only has 32 megs of RAM that the system can actually use).

Long story short, use the nV card.

 

[Rhin0]

I don't really play any glide games... well I don't think.

Pretty sure I run DirectX on Unreal Tourney (original) and the original Half-life.

Honestly I think the Geforce mx card is still probably just all around better because of:

-drivers
-core/clock speed
-RAM technology
-architecture is built to handle all the stuff in HL and other games of that time better than the V5 was

This voodoo5 is vintage though. Definately keeping it. I'll probably put it in my server?

 

[VIAN]

The Geforce 4MX hands down will win.

 

[Painman]

Celly 300A and the BH6... Ahh those were good times :beer:

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: VIAN
The Geforce 4MX hands down will win.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Painman
Celly 300A and the BH6... Ahh those were good times :beer:

No doubt...exactly what I had. Rock solid at 450 and a little flaky at 512....I never cared about trying to actually cool the thing.

Anyway, didn't the last of the voodoo cards have like 5 cpus (or something similarly ridiculous) on them?

 

[Rhin0]

So guys... If I have 256mb of ram in this computer and I drop in this Geforce 4 MX 64MB AGP video card. What is a good AGP Aperature size for my setup? I thought it made a bigger difference on older computers.

Anyone remember the optimal settings?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Anyway, didn't the last of the voodoo cards have like 5 cpus (or something similarly ridiculous) on them?

The Voodoo 5 6000 has 4 VSA-100 chips on it, including its own power block. The card also barely fit into the majority of cases because of its length.

 

[ScrewFace]

Originally posted by: Painman
Celly 300A and the BH6... Ahh those were good times :beer:

You got that right. I had the same setup and it was incredibly awesome to get 450MHz out of my 300MHz Celeron 'A'. Ah, those were the days!

 

[vshah]

aperture size shouldn't matter much, i'd leave it at 32 or 64

 

[Fenuxx]

Prolly 64MB for the aperature size with 256MB of system memory. Thats what I used for my GF2 MX400 way back when (similar hardware config). That should do fine for what you want to do.

 

[gaidensensei]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Anyway, didn't the last of the voodoo cards have like 5 cpus (or something similarly ridiculous) on them?

The Voodoo 5 6000 has 4 VSA-100 chips on it, including its own power block. The card also barely fit into the majority of cases because of its length.

you know, i just saw this on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=40157&item=5185575058

then i read about the review without a benchmark:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=817

i never knew such a thing existed.

 

[Icopoli]

The 5500 has a higher clock/ram if memory serves rights, but the 440 has all the GF4 features at the sacrifice of speed, plus you're going to bottleneck at the CPU anyway so it doesn't really matter.

 

[andy nowotny]

MX440 match your C300A

 

[PeteRoy]

Voodoo 5 is a DX6 video card while Geforce 4 MX is DX7.

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: Icopoli
The 5500 has a higher clock/ram if memory serves rights, but the 440 has all the GF4 features at the sacrifice of speed, plus you're going to bottleneck at the CPU anyway so it doesn't really matter.

The GF4MX is a far cry from a full GF4 feature set. Primarily, it is missing pixel (and I believe vertex) shaders.

 

[PeteRoy]

Geforce 4 MX440 is actually a Geforce 2 Ultra ie DX7.

Geforce 3 is DX8.

Geforce 4 Ti series is DX8.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
Geforce 4 MX440 is actually a Geforce 2 Ultra ie DX7.

Geforce 3 is DX8.

Geforce 4 Ti series is DX8.

Actually the 4Ti is DX8.1.

Futhermore you all speak of features above the Voodoo but you dont list any. Aside from much lower powerconsumption, the Geforce 4MX has hardware T&L.

IIRC all the Geforce Cards, and for that matter some of the TNT's, have Vertex shaders (remember 3dMark 01 the little guys running around shooting each other). However they do lack any Pixel Shading in hardware.

-Kevin