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How do I know which version of Windows 10 I'll get if I accept this upgrade? I'm currently on Windows 7 Professional 64-bit.
Which version am I getting?
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Thank you. I had a bad upgrade to 10 on Dell Venue 8 Pro, and Dell told me I should have updated all drivers before going to 10. Didn't make a difference anyway because the tablet itself has problems Dell refuses to acknowledge with its network and display adapters, regardless of updating or not. In any event, it's made me scared a bit of going to 10 on the desktop and finding problems. I've got an Acronis backup in any event. But still.
I don't suppose anyone's published a guide to must-do steps for a good upgrade to 10?
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SparkyJJO
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Download (but don't install) the Windows 10 drivers for what you need.
Uninstall all drivers that you can while still having the system able to run (video drivers, audio, network, etc).
Do the upgrade.
Install the Windows 10 drivers you already have downloaded.
At least, that's what I did and I have not had a single driver-related problem.
Uninstall all drivers that you can while still having the system able to run (video drivers, audio, network, etc).
Do the upgrade.
Install the Windows 10 drivers you already have downloaded.
At least, that's what I did and I have not had a single driver-related problem.
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Ok, I saw an article on PC Magazine or some other site that said to do the same thing; to get your drivers before. Sounds good.
Questions..
1. I don't get what the thinking is (other than safety) because isn't the Windows installation itself going to go out and get those drivers before you have a chance to intercede? Also, perhaps I'm not the typical situation but I've got a Windows laptop, and two Windows tablets on which I could also get these drivers if needed after the installation. But I'm sure their recommendations are for people with one Windows machine being upgraded.
2. Bit of a concern.. I went to the site for my motherboard and it says it's supported only up to 8.1. But that doesn't mean it won't work, right? It just means they don't presently have support for 10.
don't do the upgrade because IMHO windows 10 is a step backwards aling the same lines as windows vista. I still think windows 7 is superior.
SparkyJJO
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1) not necessarily, because if the initial Windows install doesn't have drivers for your network card then you're kinda screwed. That's why you get them beforehand, just to be safe.
2) Wouldn't worry too much. That's the same generation board as mine (I have the Z68X-UD3H-B3). The product page hasn't been updated since release. Go to the drivers page and Windows 10 drivers are listed there for the Intel stuff. Windows 10 has built in support for USB 3. Grab the latest Realtek RTL8111E NIC drivers direct from Realtek http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads...GetDown=false&Langid=1&Level=5&PFid=5&PNid=13 And the audio driver package as well http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads...=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
The most important thing stated in this thread... "I've got an Acronis backup in any event."
I'm in full agreement with silicon.
I'm in full agreement with silicon.
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Cool, those are exactly the drivers I downloaded after reading your message. Bizarre though, that with those audio drivers my specific ALC889 aren't listed in the adjoining readme?
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Wow, really? Ok. I think it's fantastic and love how it completes my Windows devices from laptop to tablet to phone. But this isn't a 10 vs 7 thread so I don't wanna get off-topic.
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Downloading the Win10 drivers is just a precaution, and chances are that it won't be necessary. And if you have another computer that you can use in an emergency, then it is unnecessary and I wouldn't bother. Really, the upgrade should go smoothly as long as you don't have any truly odd hardware.
Personally, I upgraded four computers when Win10 was first released. Three of the four upgrades were fine. However, I subsequently had to roll one back after I learned that there was a bug in Win10 that prevented DTS Connect from working. The last computer seemed to upgrade fine, but for some reason Security Essentials wasn't properly uninstalled which prevented Windows Defender from running. Eventually I rolled back to previous OS, uninstalled MSSE, then reinstalled Win 10 and all was well. So, both times that I had to revert to previous OS worked perfectly. So I think you should be fine with your Win 10 upgrade, even if you find that you have to revert back.
Personally, I upgraded four computers when Win10 was first released. Three of the four upgrades were fine. However, I subsequently had to roll one back after I learned that there was a bug in Win10 that prevented DTS Connect from working. The last computer seemed to upgrade fine, but for some reason Security Essentials wasn't properly uninstalled which prevented Windows Defender from running. Eventually I rolled back to previous OS, uninstalled MSSE, then reinstalled Win 10 and all was well. So, both times that I had to revert to previous OS worked perfectly. So I think you should be fine with your Win 10 upgrade, even if you find that you have to revert back.
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So, really anything can go wrong. Why can't you just completely wipe your C drive when you install 10 so it installs fresh? Will the free upgrade not count then?
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It will now (didn't used to) but fresh means reinstalling everything. For me that would have been a huge pain and taken a lot of time to get everything reinstalled, reconfigured, etc.
You could do the in-place upgrade and if it is wacky then just nuke it and do a clean install. Best case you save time reloading everything, worst case you only wasted a little time. Start the upgrade process before you go to bed so it can just do its thing while you sleep.
You could do the in-place upgrade and if it is wacky then just nuke it and do a clean install. Best case you save time reloading everything, worst case you only wasted a little time. Start the upgrade process before you go to bed so it can just do its thing while you sleep.
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Left it doing its thing overnight and the only thing wonky is that when I use Windows-P to switch to my TV connected via HDMI, everything is much lower than it should be despite saying that it IS running at 1080. Windows 7 didn't do that, it was an exact mirror of the desktop screen. No oversized icons or taskbar items that need a scroll to all be seen. So, I went and got the new Radeon drivers despite the fact that it looked like it had gotten them just fine by itself.
But the problem persists. On the TV it looks like it's running at a much lower res despite saying 1080. Ideas? (...please, those of you who hate Windows 10, resist the temptation however strong to tell me to go back to Windows 7. Seriously, that doesn't help here at all, go write a blog about your Windows 10 hatred, I'm sure you'll have tonnes of followers.)
OlyAR15
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Not quite sure what you are describing? Are you talking about overscan, where the edges of the desktop aren't displayed? Or are you talking about scaling? Is it possible that it is the TV itself that is re-scaling the image to a lower resolution?
For overscan, see if the TV has a "dot for dot" or non-overscan mode.
For desktop scaling, just right-click on the desktop and choose "display settings" and make sure that the image for the tv is set for 100% scaling.
If it is the TV itself that is rescaling, make sure that the signal you are sending it is correct. For example, sometimes if a TV is sent a refresh rate that is different than the normal for you area, it goes into "computer mode" and reverts to 640x480. Of course this depends on the particular TV and its capabilities. So make sure you are sending the TV an actual 1920x1080x (I'm assuming) 50hz signal.
If possible, could you post a picture of the issue (not a screenshot but an actual photograph of the TV display)?
For overscan, see if the TV has a "dot for dot" or non-overscan mode.
For desktop scaling, just right-click on the desktop and choose "display settings" and make sure that the image for the tv is set for 100% scaling.
If it is the TV itself that is rescaling, make sure that the signal you are sending it is correct. For example, sometimes if a TV is sent a refresh rate that is different than the normal for you area, it goes into "computer mode" and reverts to 640x480. Of course this depends on the particular TV and its capabilities. So make sure you are sending the TV an actual 1920x1080x (I'm assuming) 50hz signal.
If possible, could you post a picture of the issue (not a screenshot but an actual photograph of the TV display)?
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Not overscan. The 1920X1080 resolution of my monitor becomes something less when I go to my TV. Not sure exactly what it goes down to but when I check to see what resolution it is, or to change it, it tells me it's 1920X1080 which clearly isn't possible.
Already set to 100.
What's interesting is that the desktop itself seems fine but web browser windows and the taskbar seem too big. The taskbar overflows, when it doesn't on my computer screen and Firefox for example looks like it's running at something lower as well. Scroll bars horizontally and vertically.
But on second thought, this is veering too far off topic. I think I'll make another thread. Thanks!
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