Which stuff do I need to watch videos at 5k resolution?

[Baldwin]

Hi everyone.

I'm John Baldwin and I've a question/problem:

Now I've a normal computer 1080p without any type of graphic card. As a result of this, when I try to run a 4k video in YouTube or downloading it, my PC gets laggy (And, if I try 5k my computer get crashed).

In a few days I'm gonna buy a 5k monitor but if I cannot enjoy a video of this resolution, the monitor would be useless.

That's why I'm asking here what do I need to run 4k videos fluently (Nvidia or other). I don't understand the difference between them, so here I'm asking what will I need for my computer.


I won't use 4k for gaming. I just want some stuff to watch 4k videos fluently. Do you know what I'm looking for?

Probably NVIDIA GTX is my best option, but I'm not sure because I know it's used for gaming, but I want to know if I can use it to watch 4k/5k videos.
How about NVIDIA GeForce 960?

If you want to know which GPU am I using: Windows 8.1 64 bits Intel core i5 @ 3.20 GHz (4 CPUs) and 4096 MB of RAM. It seems to be enough, but trust me, it isn't.

I hope you can help me.
Thanks for information.
Greetings.

 

[KingFatty]

To clarify, you don't have a dedicated GPU now, because you are using the integrated video output provided by your CPU?

 

[ShintaiDK]

What exact CPU do you have? Because it may have some support newer drivers can add. Else you need a graphics card that supports it. GTX750 should be enough with its hybrid support. Else a GTX960 for full hardware.

 

[Baldwin]

Hi.
Here you've an image of all my pc information:

Soo do you both think I should get GTX 960 to reproduce 5k content?

Thank you for information.
Hugs.

 

[Eric1987]

Why would you want anything above 4k? There isn't even enough 4k content if you're using it as a media machine.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Hi.
Here you've an image of all my pc information:

Soo do you both think I should get GTX 960 to reproduce 5k content?

Thank you for information.
Hugs.

Start by upgrading your graphics driver to the latest and try again:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...HD-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-7-8-8-1-64-bit

 

[Ketchup]

From what I have read, you need a decent video card to run 4k, You need a GOOD card to run 5k.

From what I am seeing, that Acer is a pretty slim machine. That is going to limit what cards you can use, as a standard-size graphics card won't fit, nor will a power supply with enough juice to run a high-performance card.

I did find this:

Dell says "Supported cards include: NVidia Kx000, NVidia x200 series, and AMD Wx100 series.". These are all professional cards and so cost more than a GeForce, without necessarily better performance, but the K2000 and K2200 are reasonably inexpensive. The NVS 510 also works (my experience) and I expect the NVS 310 would also be okay - that is probably the best budget option. The same Windows driver from Nvidia handles all of these NVS and Quadro cards.

http://superuser.com/questions/845302/what-specs-must-a-graphics-card-have-to-power-a-5k-monitor

So, if you want 4k, tell us what power supply came with yours, and we may be able to help you find a low-profile card that will work.

If you want to go 5k, you need to build or buy a better computer.

 

[Headfoot]

la problema sera que la fuente de poder no va a funcionar con una tarjeta grafica nueva. Siguente una busqueda del red por Google, tu computadora tiene una fuente de poder "220 w." Necesitas una fuente de poder mas grande.

Quizas la GTX 750 Ti funcionara pero no lo se para seguro. Seria mejor si reemplezaras la fuente de poder al mismo vez con la tarjeta grafica

edit:

the problem is that the power supply wont work with a new graphics card. Following a google search, your computer has a 220w power supply. You will need a bigger power supply.

Perhaps the GTX 750 Ti will work, but I don't know for sure. It would be better if you replaced your power supply at the same time as the graphics card.

 

[Ketchup]

la problema sera que la fuente de poder no va a funcionar con una tarjeta grafica nueva. Siguente una busqueda del red por Google, tu computadora tiene una fuente de poder "220 w." Necesitas una fuente de poder mas grande.

Quizas la GTX 750 Ti funcionara pero no lo se para seguro. Seria mejor si reemplezaras la fuente de poder al mismo vez con la tarjeta grafica

"the problem will be that the power supply will not work with a new graphics card. NEXT network in search of Google , your computer has a power source " 220 w . " You need a source of greatest power .

Perhaps the GTX 750 Ti work but do not know for sure. It would be better if you reemplezaras the power supply at the same time with the graphics card."

Hey, the rest of us want to read it too!

 

[ShintaiDK]

He should start with the drivers first, since Intel added 4K decode support in January.

 

[Baldwin]

So, if I understand you told me to do this:

1.- Upgrade drivers.

2.- Change/Buy a new computer (I see that you noticed that the actual monitor just accepts half-sized cards). I know where I can get a normal PC that accepts normal cards and not "half-sized" ones.
Should I buy a Intel core i7? Or it's not important?

3.- Buy the graphic card. For example, GeForce 960.

Why would you want anything above 4k? There isn't even enough 4k content if you're using it as a media machine.

My job is to bring images to reality and I also love resolution ^_^


Thank you all for the information.

 

[sm625]

It doesnt take much to decode a 4k video. Content availability and internet bandwidth are going to be your limiting factors.

 

[poofyhairguy]

It doesnt take much to decode a 4k video.

Depends.

I have some x264 low bitrate 4K video that a Chromebox-level celeron can decode on the CPU. I also have some HEVC 10 bit 4K content that the only computer in my house that can play it back is my overclocked 2500k as it eats dual core machines alive.

The 4K that we will get off of 4k Blu Rays will be closer to the latter.

 

[Baldwin]

So, let's be clear: Do you all agree Nvidia 960 would be the solution for my videos problems?

 

[shady28]

A couple of us did some testing with 4K decode in this thread :

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37329059&postcount=54

This is as good as it got with a 24FPS 4k video using an i7 4790 and 750 Ti :

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37329711&postcount=62

I should point out we got acceptable results using only specific decode software. We also had to use the k-lite codec pack. Different players performed very differently.

I have seen in other forums more dedicated to encode/decode video where the 960 will get 140-160 FPS decode rates on 4k. Best I could do was ~15% CPU usage at 24FPS, but that's across 8 'virtual' cores using software that was heavily threaded.

Really my take-away from the tests in that thread was that the 960 is the only real game in town for 4K decode using a dedicated GPU right now.

If you go with a lesser dGPU you'll probably have to constantly jump through hoops (switching software to find the one that works best).

The only other option is an Iris or Iris Pro intel integrated GPU.

 

[Stuka87]

I think the bigger question is, where are you going to get 5K content? It doesn't exist.

4K content is becoming more available, but it wont scale correctly on a 5K display.

But with that said, you need a dedicated GPU that has Display Port 1.3. Very surprised nobody above mentioned this.

 

[Headfoot]

Try new Intel drivers first.

 

[Stuka87]

Try new Intel drivers first.

This won't do anything for him. The HD-4600 does not support 5K displays. HDMI will not work.

You currently need thunderbolt or DP 1.3 to drive a 5k display depending on who's display it is.

 

[tweakboy]

There is no such thing as 5K resolution ? Its 4k 3820x2160 .. GL ^_^

Hi everyone.

I'm John Baldwin and I've a question/problem:

Now I've a normal computer 1080p without any type of graphic card. As a result of this, when I try to run a 4k video in YouTube or downloading it, my PC gets laggy (And, if I try 5k my computer get crashed).

In a few days I'm gonna buy a 5k monitor but if I cannot enjoy a video of this resolution, the monitor would be useless.

That's why I'm asking here what do I need to run 4k videos fluently (Nvidia or other). I don't understand the difference between them, so here I'm asking what will I need for my computer.


I won't use 4k for gaming. I just want some stuff to watch 4k videos fluently. Do you know what I'm looking for?

Probably NVIDIA GTX is my best option, but I'm not sure because I know it's used for gaming, but I want to know if I can use it to watch 4k/5k videos.
How about NVIDIA GeForce 960?

If you want to know which GPU am I using: Windows 8.1 64 bits Intel core i5 @ 3.20 GHz (4 CPUs) and 4096 MB of RAM. It seems to be enough, but trust me, it isn't.

I hope you can help me.
Thanks for information.
Greetings.

 

[Headfoot]

This won't do anything for him. The HD-4600 does not support 5K displays. HDMI will not work.

You currently need thunderbolt or DP 1.3 to drive a 5k display depending on who's display it is.

5k is a total pipe dream here. OP don't bother with 5k yet. The ecosystem is just not there yet and buying 5k is premature.

Go 4k on your existing computer, and get the new drivers.

 

[therealnickdanger]

5k is a total pipe dream here. OP don't bother with 5k yet. The ecosystem is just not there yet and buying 5k is premature.

Nope. 8K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDg_6Y1ZWg

You can do 5K with a couple different monitors and either MST with two DP1.2 or single connection the new Fury X. Slow CPUs need not apply.

 

[Headfoot]

Nope. 8K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDg_6Y1ZWg

You can do 5K with a couple different monitors and either MST with two DP1.2 or single connection the new Fury X. Slow CPUs need not apply.

Note the word "here".

My point still stands unless OP has a much bigger budget than he's letting on

 

[therealnickdanger]

Note the word "here".

Noted. I was more excited just to share the 8K stream more than anything else.

 

[Stuka87]

Nope. 8K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auDg_6Y1ZWg

You can do 5K with a couple different monitors and either MST with two DP1.2 or single connection the new Fury X. Slow CPUs need not apply.

Bodie (town in the video) isn't too far from where I live. Its a pretty cool place to visit. But the stream only shows up as a max of 4K for me.

The purpose of 5K is to allow you to edit 4K video, and still have your tool bars on screen.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

So, let's be clear: Do you all agree Nvidia 960 would be the solution for my videos problems?

Just to clarify things a bit.

To drive a 5K display you'll need a graphics card with two separate Displayport outputs (one will not be able to drive it alone) and some multi-tile voodoo. Or in the case of Apple a thunderbolt connection. HDMI can not drive a 5K display. It can manage a 4K@60Hz maximum.

This already disqualify the GTX750(TI) suggested. I only know of two manufacturers (EVGA and Gigabyte) putting single Displayports on their 750(TI)'s. Haven't really researched what is available in the 960-class.

4K h.264 video decoding is trivial in comparison. A 750 shouldn't have any problems with it at all. In fact the Intel HD4600 shouldn't have problems either. If you move over to the AMD camp, be warned the only card with proper 4K decode support is the 285/380...

If you just want to take advantage of the added screen real-estate, grab a 4K Dell/whatever-your-preference monitor and call it a day. Much, much simpler. Not to mention a lot cheaper. 5K really isn't ready for prime time just yet.