Discussion Which states are opposites of New York in most ways?

ibex333

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In interest of full disclosure, I dislike New York City. I dislike the mayor. I dislike the governor. I dislike everything they stand for, all their beliefs and values. I cringe at the things they say on TV and the way they run this city as well as many other areas of the state. But this thread is not about how I feel about NYC, so lets not discuss that, PLEASE. It's about places in United States which are polar opposites of New York.

For example:

New York - crowded? Other place, lots of free space.
New York - Very expensive to own a house - other place, affordable to own a house for middle class
New York - dirty? - other place cleaner
New York - very democrat/liberal? Other place, very republican, anti-liberal or other.
New York - loud, lots of parties, booming night life. Other place, a little quieter. Less action.

You get the picture...

I am curious where in United States, things are VERY different in comparison. I may move there someday, if finances allow.
 

DigDog

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i can see why you would hate NYC, but that doesnt mean the opposite of NYC would be perfect. For example; i agree that NYC is irritating because of the overpopulation. People will shoulder-butt you just to get through, and that was 30 years ago! But, the partying is cool. The discos are cool. The neverending river of drugs is cool. Threesomes are cool.
On the other hand, living in Long Island is like a paradise; houses are (were) cheap, lobsters are ten bucks each, and you'll know a level of peace and quiet that doesn't exist anywhere else.
But gawd-dang if you ever want to do anything. Your options are 1) movie theater 2) get drunk by the beach. And that's it. No fancy sushi bars, no techno, no hookers, drugs or even rock&roll.
 
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brianmanahan

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perth australia is as far from new york city as you can possibly go

also, tell us how you really feel

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Captante

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In interest of full disclosure, I dislike New York City. I dislike the mayor. I dislike the governor. I dislike everything they stand for, all their beliefs and values. I cringe at the things they say on TV and the way they run this city as well as many other areas of the state. But this thread is not about how I feel about NYC, so lets not discuss that, PLEASE. It's about places in United States which are polar opposites of New York.

For example:

New York - crowded? Other place, lots of free space.
New York - Very expensive to own a house - other place, affordable to own a house for middle class
New York - dirty? - other place cleaner
New York - very democrat/liberal? Other place, very republican, anti-liberal or other.
New York - loud, lots of parties, booming night life. Other place, a little quieter. Less action.

You get the picture...

I am curious where in United States, things are VERY different in comparison. I may move there someday, if finances allow.



Lot of good stuff about NY/NYC too although I must admit there's are many good reasons that I live in Connecticut instead!

Ever spent any time in NYC yourself?

And on-topic maybe someplace in western Montana or Idaho would be more your ... erm ... style?? They're both pretty "opposite" of NYC at least.
 
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Texas.

Less Dense. Less populated. More spread out.
Driving instead of squeezing into public transit (also things are just built differently and way further apart).
Dirty? Honestly, you would need to describe that better, but if you want a place that doesn't have trash on the ground and stuff then move to Japan. Americans are douches in that regard. Closest you will find is subburb areas that are "cleaner" I suppose.
Live more towards suburbs if you want them to be less liberal... further out from the main urban cities
Plenty of loud parties though - just depends where you live... If you live in suburbs you won't have that. If you live in urban cities you're more likely to see clubs, douches with house parties, etc.
 

Captante

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Maine? That's where I'd like to be.


I love Maine! :)

Unfortunately HOWEVER now that I'm thinking about it I have to drive up there with my ex-wifes freaking mini-van next week to help my daughter move from one college apartment to another.

Nearly 7 hours each way. :confused_old:


So yeah thanks a lot for bringing up Maine! :mad:;)
 
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OccamsToothbrush

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i can see why you would hate NYC, but that doesnt mean the opposite of NYC would be perfect.


That x 1000. New York State and NYC are in many many respects awful. Truly awful on an epic scale and I agree with your assessment of their politics and the way they run things. But the opposite side of the coin would be just as bad if not worse. The hardcore republican strongholds are in many other respects giant shitholes where the leaders are just as clueless as Cuomo and Bloomberg. They're places where religion rules all, where science is viewed as witchcraft and where education means knowing how to skin a possum, not knowing how to read and write and think for yourself. If I had a choice of living in New York or Alabama I'd move to Moscow.

OP, you really need to think this through because *hopefully* you're looking to get away from the libtard politics of NY and into something more pragmatic and sensible and that is most assuredly NOT the polar opposite of New York.
 

Captante

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Wow I was going to agree about NY State covering a lot of different ground people and environment-wise but Texas dwarfs NY in population with roughly 10 million more people however in area Texas is about 6 times larger!

Plenty of "opposites" to the OP's dislikes even within NY State but Texas has to take the prize so far.


EDIT: While quickly looking up the populations I noticed that NYC by itself has a larger population then 33 entire states!




They're places where religion rules all, where science is viewed as witchcraft and where education means knowing how to skin a possum


Is that a banjo I hear ??? :p
 
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Wow I was going to agree about NY State covering a lot of different ground people and environment-wise but Texas dwarfs NY in population with roughly 10 million more people however in area Texas is about 6 times larger!

Yeah but basically no one lives west of 35 or south of 37
 
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ultimatebob

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New York is a big state with lot of country and rural areas.

Yeah, but upstate NY is pretty much ruled by NYC and Westchester, because that's where all of the money and people are.

It's like northeastern and northwestern Connecticut. It's surprisingly conservative there, but it doesn't matter because almost everyone lives in and around the five largest cities in CT and they all vote 70% Democrat.

Personally, I think that the Texas panhandle is about as anti NYC as you can get. Super rural, super conservative, and tons of freedom to do whatever the hell you want. Go shoot guns and fireworks naked in your backyard, nobody is going to probably notice :)
 

MrSquished

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NYC is far bigger than it's current mayor that's for sure. If you can't move past that then you just have issues. What an amazing place for culture and activities and food (pre-pandemic of course). You would do well in some hillibilly state like Alabama or Kentucky (serious suggestion, polar opposites of NYC). Don't let the door hit you...
 
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brianmanahan

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I'm not from Turkey, have never been to Turkey, have no desire to go to Turkey and don't even like eating turkey.

oh huh i must've been confusing you with someone else with a similar name.

i want to go to turkey so bad, the ancient history there is incredible. gobekli tepe, sardis, ionia, tons of hittite and persian and greek and roman and ottoman influence.

maybe things will be better in a few decades.
 

JM Aggie08

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Texas, though it' very quickly shifting blue (thank God). Can't beat a brand new, 3100sqft home on a quarter acre for <$350k. Would be happy if the Governor was removed, but other than that, it's pretty fantastic.

That said, stay away -- you sound like a miserable person lol.
 
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