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rockyct

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: VAisforlovers
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: VAisforlovers
Originally posted by: OCguy
How could it not be CA? :confused:

what are the schools in CA?

Stanford, Berkeley, Claremont colleges, USC, UCLA, UCSD, not to mention the rest of the UC system and other various private universities.

the rest of the UC system sucks

UCR? UCSB? places like Boston University or Boston College is better than most of the UCs

UCLA, USC, UC Berkeley, UC Davis, UCSF, UCSD all >/= BU or BC.

Cal Poly SLO and Pomona are also quite good schools.
 

xanis

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PA has some pretty good schools.

Drexel
UPenn
Cornell
Carnegie Mellon
Penn State
Pittsburgh
 

Gibson486

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It's purely regional. To people in MA, Boston U is a great school, but to people in CA, Boston U is just another college.
 

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Originally posted by: DT4K
Originally posted by: VAisforlovers
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: VAisforlovers
Originally posted by: OCguy
How could it not be CA? :confused:

what are the schools in CA?

Stanford, Berkeley, Claremont colleges, USC, UCLA, UCSD, not to mention the rest of the UC system and other various private universities.

the rest of the UC system sucks

UCR? UCSB? places like Boston University or Boston College is better than most of the UCs

Not according to the US News rankings.

Stanford - 4
CIT - 6
Berkeley - 21
UCLA - 25
USC - 27
UCSD - 35
UCDavis, UCIrvine, UCSB - all tied for 44th

You have to define what you mean by "best".

facts > VAisforlovers
 

sjwaste

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Whoever pointed out that regional status matters more is probably correct. Out here in VA, we don't give a shit which UC school you went to, but if you went to UVA, Penn, or even W&M, it matters. In CA, you probably don't even know what W&M is and generally know that UVA is a good school, but you know which of the UCs are better, etc.

National rankings are mostly meaningless outside of the top handful of schools. Especially true in the legal profession, I've found.

But to answer the OPs question, no state has the sheer number of quality schools present in CA. Of course, no state has the sheer number of schools present in CA.

It's really, really hard to not say MA has the best schools, just for the presence of Harvard and MIT. History probably plays a big part of that, though. That and I'm from the Northeast - but I cant stand Sox fans. So CA wins.
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Xanis
PA has some pretty good schools.

UPenn
Carnegie Mellon

Fixed. And fail. Cornell is in NY...

Yeah yeah, I know. i got CM and Cornell confused and for some reason put both of them.
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Xanis
PA has some pretty good schools.

Drexel
UPenn
Cornell
Carnegie Mellon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Wow, your profile shows PA. Unfortunately for you, Cornell is in NY.

Yes, I know. I got Cornell and CM mixed up for some reason and wound up putting them both down. Yeah, I'm a dumbass. :p
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Whoever pointed out that regional status matters more is probably correct. Out here in VA, we don't give a shit which UC school you went to, but if you went to UVA, Penn, or even W&M, it matters. In CA, you probably don't even know what W&M is and generally know that UVA is a good school, but you know which of the UCs are better, etc.

National rankings are mostly meaningless outside of the top handful of schools. Especially true in the legal profession, I've found.

But to answer the OPs question, no state has the sheer number of quality schools present in CA. Of course, no state has the sheer number of schools present in CA.

It's really, really hard to not say MA has the best schools, just for the presence of Harvard and MIT. History probably plays a big part of that, though. That and I'm from the Northeast - but I cant stand Sox fans. So CA wins.

Harvard, MIT and Stanford, Cal Tech pretty much same caliber.
 

Mo0o

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california is way bigger than MA though. Would be more interesting to compare new england vs. california, it which case it would be total domination by NE
 

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I suppose if I had a choice, I'd take Harvard over Stanford.

Now, back in the real world, I have to settle for community college.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: JS80

Harvard, MIT and Stanford, Cal Tech pretty much same caliber.

If I'm scanning resumes, Harvard and MIT are going to jump out at me more than Cal Tech and Stanford, sorry. It's not to say I don't recognize those schools and how good they are, but around here the former carry more weight.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: JS80

Harvard, MIT and Stanford, Cal Tech pretty much same caliber.

If I'm scanning resumes, Harvard and MIT are going to jump out at me more than Cal Tech and Stanford, sorry. It's not to say I don't recognize those schools and how good they are, but around here the former carry more weight.

Then you are a horrible recruiter you are passing on same caliber students. If there is a marginal difference it's minuscule.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: JS80

Harvard, MIT and Stanford, Cal Tech pretty much same caliber.

If I'm scanning resumes, Harvard and MIT are going to jump out at me more than Cal Tech and Stanford, sorry. It's not to say I don't recognize those schools and how good they are, but around here the former carry more weight.

Then you are a horrible recruiter you are passing on same caliber students. If there is a marginal difference it's minuscule.

theres no diff between stanford and harvard. between MIT and CalTech, I would think the caltech kids are weirder. Gotta be a special person to want to go to such a nerdy school
 

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: GasX
Originally posted by: Xanis
PA has some pretty good schools.

Drexel
UPenn
Cornell
Carnegie Mellon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Cornell?

Cornell wasn't the only dubious submission

Cornell is an outstanding school. He was questioning Cornell because it's NOT in Pennsylvania, as has been pointed out.
 
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: JS80

Harvard, MIT and Stanford, Cal Tech pretty much same caliber.

If I'm scanning resumes, Harvard and MIT are going to jump out at me more than Cal Tech and Stanford, sorry. It's not to say I don't recognize those schools and how good they are, but around here the former carry more weight.

Then you are a horrible recruiter you are passing on same caliber students. If there is a marginal difference it's minuscule.

theres no diff between stanford and harvard. between MIT and CalTech, I would think the caltech kids are weirder. Gotta be a special person to want to go to such a nerdy school

Caltech is a better science school by far. It's a weaker engineering school.
 
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Three top 3 engineering schools are MIT, Stanfurd, and Cal.

Berkeley and USC have top 10 business programs.

UCSF and StanFUrd are top 10 med schools. UCLA is just shy of top 10.

Stanford and Berkeley have top 10 law programs.

UCLA, Berkeley, and Stanford have top 10 teaching programs.

The only region that comes close is MA.

CA hands down.

BTW when you include schools w/o PhDs, Cal Poly SLO, Harvey Mudd, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Pepperdine, blah blah blah all stand out. CA once again.

Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: Xanis
PA has some pretty good schools.

Drexel
UPenn
Carnegie Mellon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

BTW only 2 of those schools are worth competing with some of the top schools from CA, and those 2 on the list are CMU and UPenn. Hell UCSD trumps the rest of the list.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: GasX
Originally posted by: Xanis
PA has some pretty good schools.

Drexel
UPenn
Cornell
Carnegie Mellon
Penn State
Pittsburgh

Cornell?

Cornell wasn't the only dubious submission

Cornell is an outstanding school. He was questioning Cornell because it's NOT in Pennsylvania, as has been pointed out.

I guess i mixed what dubious meant regarding cornell vs. the ones I listed. imeant cornell was dubious in the sense that it wasnt in PA. and the other ones because they're not considered elite colleges
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Three top 3 engineering schools are MIT, Stanfurd, and Cal.

Berkeley and USC have top 10 business programs.

UCSF and StanFUrd are top 10 med schools. UCLA is just shy of top 10.

Stanford and Berkeley have top 10 law programs.

UCLA, Berkeley, and Stanford have top 10 teaching programs.

The only region that comes close is MA.

CA hands down.

Dont forget stanford school of business is pretty damn godo as well
 
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Three top 3 engineering schools are MIT, Stanfurd, and Cal.

Berkeley and USC have top 10 business programs.

UCSF and StanFUrd are top 10 med schools. UCLA is just shy of top 10.

Stanford and Berkeley have top 10 law programs.

UCLA, Berkeley, and Stanford have top 10 teaching programs.

The only region that comes close is MA.

CA hands down.

Dont forget stanford school of business is pretty damn godo as well

You're right. Why did I look at the undergrad list? Hahaha MBA programs Stanford and Cal all the way for top 10. SC and LA are somewhere in the teens.