Which Radeon is this?

[shiner]

I ordered what was supposed to be a Radeon LE 32mb DDR from TCWO for a friend and it just arrived. When we opened the box and pulled out the card I noticed that it had a fan on the vid chip and has TV out. Did they ship the wrong card or what? If so what card is this?

 

[Operandi]

I've never heard of an LE having either a HS/F or video out. Sounds like it might be a regular Radeon DDR?

 

[shiner]

That's what I'm thinking...is there any way of finding out by looking at a part numer or something?

 

[Operandi]

Try looking on the card for a model number and running it through google and see what comes up. I've identified a few pieces of hardware that way b4.

 

[Killrose]

Hopefull it's not the VE version. Send it back if it is.

 

[DClark]

Both VE versions use a heatsink only, so if you got one with a fan, it's most likely a Radeon 32mbDDR

Here's the BIOS part number of each ATi product.

To find out your BIOS number, go to the Device Manager, double-click on the card (it'll probably read "Radeon 7200" if you're using one of the newer drivers), and hit the "Details" tab. You probably will have one of these numbers: 113-70604, 113-70601, 113-70602, 113-75702, or 113-75703 (those are the Radeon 32mb DDR numbers) under the BIOS Part Number section (mine reads "113-85701-103"; guess which card I have ).

 

[shiner]

Well as luck would have the card we have here isn't listed on that BIOS # page from ATi. It's BIOS part # is 113-70603-100

 

[shiner]

Still searching to find out what kind they sent us and so far the only number I've been able to find that was the same as the BIOS part # I listed above was on a German site. Lucklily I can read a little German and from what I picked up it seems as if this is a VE card....DOH!!! Anyone else have ideas???

 

[DClark]

I'm wondering if Althon Micro started using fans on the LE after it got to be successful, or maybe ATi just sold them their remaining retail 32mb DDRs to be re-sold as LEs? Does your card have the ATi logo on it (with the words ATi in the middle, and not whited out)?

What you might want to try is to go into your registry settings (Run> regedit> HK_LOCAL_MACHINE> Software> ATI Technologies> Driver> 0000> atidxhal) and look for these three entries:

Retail Radeons have this:
"DisableHierarchicalZ"="0"
"DisableHyperZ"="0"
"FastZClearEnabled"="1"

Radeon LEs should have this:
"DisableHierarchicalZ"="1"
"DisableHyperZ"="1"
"FastZClearEnabled"="0"

Also, run a default MadOnion 3DMark2001 bench, publish it, and post a link to it. I should be able to tell the approximate clock speed, and the type of core (Radeon 7200 or Radeon 7000) just from the bench

 

[shiner]

Ok...looked at the registry settings and thay are :

Key Name: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ATI Technologies\Driver\0000\atidxhal
Class Name: <NO CLASS>

Value 0
Name: EnableWaitUntilIdxTriList2
Type: REG_SZ
Data: 1
Value 1
Name: DisableHierarchicalZ
Type: REG_SZ
Data: 0
Value 2
Name: DisableHyperZ
Type: REG_SZ
Data: 0
Value 3
Name: FastZClearEnabled

The card does have the ATI Logo on it and it is not whited out. The Fan even has the ATI logo on it....I'll do the MadOnion 3dMark here in a bit....thanks for all your help

 

[spanky]

the radeon le does not have the hsf... just a hs. also... on the back of the card, it should read radeon le. isn't the video bios gonna tell u if its an le also? another way to check it out is to get a program like radeon tweaker and see what the core/mem speed is.

 

[shiner]

Here the link to 32Mark 2001 Results that you asked for.

 

[DClark]

You've got a standard Radeon core (meaning it does have Hardware T&L and 2 pipelines of 3 textures), and judging by the fill rates it's running at around 148 to 150mhz. It's a good card that should run most of today's games with most game settings at or near maximum in 1024x768x32.

So my guess would be that ATi sold Althon Micro a bunch of Retail Radeon 32mb DDRs, and asked Althon Micro to flash them with the LE's BIOS to give it a lower clock speed.