Which quarterback's season was most impressive?

[Deeko]

Of course he would, but it wouldn't be true. Otherwise Trent Dilfer '00 would be a better year than Manning '04 or Marino '84, and everyone with a brain knows that isn't true.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Aikman was better than them all!

Fixed

 

[ballmode]

PEYTON MANNING CAN NEVER LOSE

 

[Deeko]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...hadiha_jeff&id=3186324

According to ESPN, it goes Marino, Manning, Brady

 

[CTrain]

People don't realize how impressive Marinos season was.
The Dolphins had 0 running game.
Marino had 2 midget receivers(both 5'9) to throw to.

 

[Ballatician]

manning/marino
brady

 

[AgentUnknown]

Brady*


*Cheated

 

[Jules]

Brady.

 

[ballmode]

Manning took more games easier and didn't even bother last game. He was also pulled from several 4th quarter blow outs like when the Colts played Arizona.


Manning could have really racked up the numbers if he wanted to. Of course I voted Manning, but actually Marino should get the nod. That was his 2nd year, and back in the 80's WR's got roughed up alot more than they do now....

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Montana was better than them all!

QFT.

MotionMan

 

[mooglemania85]

1984 Dolphins (14-2)

W... MIA 35 @ WAS (11-5) 17
W... NE 7 (9-7) @ MIA 28
W... MIA 21 @ BUF (2-14) 17
W... IND 7 (4-12) @ MIA 44
W... MIA 36 @ STL (9-7) 28
W... MIA 31 @ PIT (9-7) 7
W... HOU 10 (3-13) @ MIA 28
W... MIA 44 @ NE (9-7) 24
W... BUF 7 (2-14) @ MIA 38
W... MIA 31 @ NYJ (7-9) 17
W... PHI 23 (6-9-1) @ MIA 24
L... MIA 28 @ SD (7-9) 34
W... NYJ 17 (7-9) @ MIA 28
L... RAI 45 (11-5) @ MIA 34
W... MIA 35 @ IND (4-12) 17
W... DAL 21 (9-7) @ MIA 28


7 GAMES (6-1) VS. TEAMS OVER .500
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2004 Colts (12-4)

L... IND 24 @ NE 27 (14-2)
W... IND 31 @ TEN 17 (5-11)
W... GB 31 (10-6) @ IND 45
W... IND 24 @ JAC (9-7) 17
W... OAK 14 (5-11) @ IND 35
L... JAC (9-7) 27 @ IND 24
L... IND 35 @ KC (7-9) 45
W... MIN 28 (8-8) @ IND 31
W... HOU (7-9) 14 @ IND 49
W... IND 41 @ CHI (5-11) 10
W... IND 41 @ DET (6-10) 9
W... TEN 24 (5-11) @ IND 51
W... IND 23 @ HOU (7-9) 14
W... BAL 10 (9-7) @ IND 20
W... SD 31 (12-4) @ IND 34
L... IND 14 @ DEN (10-6) 33

7 GAMES (4-3) VS. TEAMS OVER .500
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2007 Pats (16-0)

W... NE 38 @ NYJ (4-12) 14
W... SD (11-5) 14 @ NE 38
W... BUF (7-9) 7 @ NE 38
W... NE 34 @ CIN (7-9) 13
W... CLE (10-6) 17 @ NE 34
W... NE 48 @ DAL (13-3) 27
W... NE 49 @ MIA (1-15) 28
W... WAS (9-7) 7 @ NE 52
W... NE 24 @ IND (13-3) 20
W... NE 56 @ BUF (7-9) 10
W... PHI (8-8) 28 @ NE 31
W... NE 27 @ BAL (5-11) 24
W... PIT (10-6) 13 @ NE 34
W... NYJ (4-12) 10 @ NE 20
W... MIA (1-15) 7 @ NE 28
W... NE 38 @ NYG (10-6) 35

7 GAMES (7-0) VS. TEAMS OVER .500

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: waggy
oh man thats rough. i am going to have to go with option #4. Rex grossman! yesss!



to be fair i think all 3 of them are amazing. Cooper town entries on the first ballot.

 

[angminas]

Wins don't matter much for a QB? Man, you are completely missing the point of the game and the position. It's the QB's job to turn lead into gold.
All first ballot HOFers? Definitely.
Montana the best QB? Na. He was great, yes, but he played on some monster teams with a monster coach. He had it FAR easier than, just for starters, Marino, Elway, or Favre.
Aikman the best QB? Not even the best Dallas QB. Probably the luckiest QB in the history of the NFL. I guess you were joking.
Terry Bradshaw pretending to be a hick? Yes and no. He is a hick, but he knows how to make that work for him. If he were ultra-retarded, he wouldn't still be on TV.
Manning sat out the last game? I didn't know that. Makes his season look better.

Brady is a great QB, but he's never been really ALONE like some have. It has never been solely up to him. He always knows that if he falters, there are dozens of other stout dudes both on and off the field who can pick him up, dust him off, give him time to rest, get a turnover, call a great play for his next series, etc. The 2000s Patriots are the greatest NFL team in history, and they can make a good case for greatest sports dynasty in history. Perhaps ironically, this diminishes Brady's accomplishments, because he has had more help than perhaps any other QB. The impact of Randy Moss on this season CANNOT be overstated! If you think Brady's supporting cast is anything but critically important to these kind of discussions, you have never been out there with the rock in your hand, millions of eyes on you, large angry men running right at you, looking desperately for somebody, please, SOMEBODY to be open so you can convert this 4th-and-long and keep the season alive.

A great QB can win games here and there on talent and desire, and maybe he can even drag his team to the Super Bowl by sheer wilpower, but he can't win the Super Bowl all by himself. If you don't believe me, just ask John Elway. The playoffs are a completely different game from the regular season, and the Super Bowl is a completely different game from the playoffs.

Out of these three seasons, my ranking:

1. Marino (for doing the most with the least)
2. Manning (for just plain crazy stats)
3. Brady (for overall excellence, and it is a shame to rank it 3rd, but there it is)

But none of these three is the greatest QB overall.

 

[TheNewbie]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Montana was better than them all!

Beat me to it. :thumbsup:

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: ballmode
Manning took more games easier and didn't even bother last game. He was also pulled from several 4th quarter blow outs like when the Colts played Arizona.


Manning could have really racked up the numbers if he wanted to. Of course I voted Manning, but actually Marino should get the nod. That was his 2nd year, and back in the 80's WR's got roughed up alot more than they do now....

That's pretty much how I see it.

 

[torpid]

I didn't see the Marino season so maybe this was true of him as well, but I would pick Brady because he engineered some impressive 4th quarter comebacks this year, and because the game is a bit tougher than it was back in 1984.

 

[Deeko]

Not for the QB. The players are all bigger, stronger, and faster...but the rules favor the passing game MUCH more now. Illegal contact for example, as well as all the rules protecting the QB from getting hit.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Tebow.

 

[Nitemare]

Marino, he did it when defenses were actually allowed to defend

 

[paulxcook]

Manning, because I'm a Colts homer.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Deeko
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...hadiha_jeff&id=3186324

According to ESPN, it goes Marino, Manning, Brady

No Barry Sanders???....


FAIL

1997 14 straight 100+ yd games to close out the season...would have been more cept the Lions were an absolute crap team....

He had no offensive line and no qb at all to take the pressure off of him. He also did not get as much use in the 3rd and 4th quarters because usually they were already down by a few TD's and had to throw the ball.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Marino = Brady then Manning

Marino had lesser talent to work with lenient defensive rules
Brady has had less than ideal weather conditions (no dome nor FL weather)

ypa is influenced too much by offensive scheme and wide receivers to be a influencing factor imho

 

[Deeko]

So is completion % though. Brady used short passes and screens as a substitute for a running game (kinda like a more vertical west coast offense, if that makes sense). That lowers YPA, TD %, and int % but raises completion %.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Agree. I honestly find all of their stats to be a wash. The only thing that really sticks out is Marino's INTs but once you factor in the defensive rules back then, I'd put them in line with Manning and Brady.