Which PSU?

[FFG]

I was going certainly for OCZ Powerstream 600W SLI but i thought i can check out the others too.And when i looked them up they seem to be even better.

My choices are

Tagan TG-530-U15 530Watts 113$
OCZ OCZ600ADJSLI > 600Watts 180$
SeaSonic S12-600 600W 170$

Ignore the prices,i can give 30 bucks more for a better psu.

If you want take in account the rest of the psu's but the actuall thing that i'm interested in is either the OCZ one or modular other.OCZ is practicly is like the Seasonic apart from looks and power rails.


The real choice is between OCZ PowerStream 600W SLI and Tagan 530W

OCZ:
Pros:
Great Look,blue fan,power rails and leds,decent cable sleeving



Tagan:
Pros:
Superb black paint,no fan in the back (in my case i like it),MODULAR and the best cable sleeving out there!

OCZ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...V+%3E+600Watts+Power+Supply+%2D+Retail
Tagan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...%2E01+530Watts+Power+Supply+%2D+Retail


Thanks in advance!
The build quallity on the Tagan is like Lian-Li with cases.

 

[Howard]

What's your rig like? You probably don't need that much power.

 

[FFG]

I probably do.I'm actually planning it for my next upgrade.


7900
2xHDD's (one is raptor)
Full watercooling setup
2GB Ram (i dont think i should mention this)
Overall thats pretty much what it'll be.





EDIT:Forgot to mention that the Tagan is actually modular

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: FFG
I probably do.I'm actually planning it for my next upgrade.


7900
2xHDD's (one is raptor)
Full watercooling setup
2GB Ram (i dont think i should mention this)
Overall thats pretty much what it'll be.

In order to use up all the power from a 600W supply, you would have to be using something like two FX-60 processors in addition to what you just listed.

You would have more than enough power if you were to get a good 400W-450W power supply no matter what single CPU you got.

 

[FFG]

For 8$ more i can get the Tagan 580.And yet its very very low priced.I want on have more power for overclocking,not staying in the edge all the time.
Just stable.


Edit:
I'm leaning to TG480-U15 (EASYCON) 580W Tagan now.
I'm not going to use the rails anyway and the tagan black paint,modular setup,sleeving is too much to skip.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Excuse me but BWAHAHAHA!!

The Tagan is the worst of the three. Not necessary but very nice to have Active PFC and
the Tagan lacks this option. It has 48Amps on the 5V line. Why do you need that much
5V omph.? Ever high end server PSUs top out around 40A here. In size, it's huge for only
having a combined 12V of 32A.

Tagan's pdf on this unit is really soft on real info. What are they hiding??

Get either of the other two, an Enhance ENS-0560G or an Enermax Liberty 500 watter.


...Galvanized

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: FFG
For 8$ more i can get the Tagan 580.And yet its very very low priced.I want on have more power for overclocking,not staying in the edge all the time.

Didn't you read what I said?

You would have more than enough power if you were to get a good 400W-450W power supply no matter what single CPU you got.

That includes X2 3800+@3.0GHz or whatever. Seriously. Please believe me.

I'm leaning to TG480-U15 (EASYCON) 580W Tagan now.
I'm not going to use the rails anyway

and the tagan black paint,modular setup,sleeving is too much to skip.

Well, you are the one who makes the decision.

 

[FFG]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Excuse me but BWAHAHAHA!!

The Tagan is the worst of the three. Not necessary but very nice to have Active PFC and
the Tagan lacks this option. It has 48Amps on the 5V line. Why do you need that much
5V omph.? Ever high end server PSUs top out around 40A here. In size, it's huge for only
having a combined 12V of 32A.

Tagan's pdf on this unit is really soft on real info. What are they hiding??

Get either of the other two, an Enhance ENS-0560G or an Enermax Liberty 500 watter.


...Galvanized

Why do you think Tagan is not good?At bit-tech Tagan is n1 power supply,only good comments about them.
In the pdf -
Tagan has 30A on the +5 rail not 48 .And 40A for the dual +12V.From where do you know its not real?

I really need to know about it

 

[pkme2]

Maybe a better deal here.
http://www.xoxide.com/seasonic.html?gclid=CILB1rXOqoUCFTV7JAodDwtd3Q

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

OK, you listed the U15. I had the pdf from Tagan's home page and they list the U22.

So yeah, the 5V is now 30A but everything else I said goes. It's not a bad unit, it's just
that the Enermax, Enhance or Seasonic are much better.


...Galvanized

 

[orion23]

I just got the OCZ 700W SLI and I love it.

Ultra quiet, very cool and powerful, and the cables are sleeved nicely!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

$147 AR ($13 MIR)

 

[Operandi]

Tagan and OCZ are both built by Topwer, so they are more less the same; which is to say decent but not that great and certainly not a very good deal.

Seasonic on the other hand is on a whole other level and is by far better in every regard.

 

[thestain]

FFG,

I vote for the OCZ GameXStream 600 or 700W version. They are identical to the higher priced FSP FX-600 GLN and FX-700 GLN that are being sold for about $20 more after rebates, etc.. and the FSP power supplies are rock steady.. reliable and just go to new egg and read the user reviews of the retail psu's.

In regards to the new OCZ GameXStream, FSP makes it for OCZ. The older versions of OCZ were designed by Tagan.

Operandi, so .. what is your source that Topower makes all these power supplies? and since when is this a bad thing?

The FSP group includes Sparkle, and Sparkle has links to Topower, but if one were to believe you and a few others.. Topower must make all the FSP, all the Sparkle, all the Zalman and all the Tagan and all the OCZ.. so.. being affiliated with means Topower makes all the psu's! Get real.. simply not true.

So.. in my opinion until you can prove otherwise, NO WAY to your assertion that OCZ is built by Topower. You seem to impune the rest by relating these psu's to Topower, but I think the Silent Green from Topower is a really nice psu, only wish it was available here in the States.

Next assertion is that Seasonic is FAR better in every regard.. come on, get serious.. The Seasonic S-12 600 is ok, it runs pretty quiet, but.. it is not certified for the power sli and crossfire set ups, those using quad sli, those using an extra ppu, those using 1900XTX's in crossfire or those using 7900 GTX's in SLI, but just for the regular ones. It has had issues relating to recycling hot air back into the top area of the case in front of the power supply as well.. check of sites like newegg will show some quality issues related to DOA, etc.. nice power supply, but not perfect.

The Max efficiency for most power supplies is in the middle of its range.. 30-70 percent.. The really good ones are starting to see in excess of 80 percent efficiency between 20 and 80 percent. I use 150-200W most of the time, but 25 percent of the time I use over 500 and 5% of the time over 600W.. with reading from the wall socket hitting well over 700W from time to time. If I listened to the oh no don't buy more power than you need at max.. I would be very foolish as I would routinely have problems with my components not working properly, my power supply would be over taxed and less efficient than it would be by aiming at a power supply that will fall into the60-70% of capacity range today.

Enough said.

The Stain

 

[FFG]

The OCZ Gamer Extreme us quite the same as Seasonic or Tagan but the thing i like about Tagan is that its modular.And it has the best sleeving while others have many red and yellow wires exposed.Will i do the wrong thing to buy Tagan or go for Seasonic and loose the excellent sleeving and the modular cables?

Is there a real problem with the Tagan rails(like,happens every time or just thoughts ) ?

 

[Bobthelost]

The Max efficiency for most power supplies is in the middle of its range.. 30-70 percent.. The really good ones are starting to see in excess of 80 percent efficiency between 20 and 80 percent. I use 150-200W most of the time, but 25 percent of the time I use over 500 and 5% of the time over 600W.. with reading from the wall socket hitting well over 700W from time to time.

Bullshit, that's twice what review sites measure for crossfire systems. Either you're talking out your arse, or you have a dodgy meter. (Or a rather non standard system, which makes your comparison pointless)

As another point good (high efficency) PSUs maintain 80% at full load.

 

[Operandi]

thestain,

The OCZ Modstream and Powerstream are built by Topower, this is widely known and not disputed. I don't have any hard facts to prove it but looking at the interior layout and identical component layout pretty much proves it. Besides who else would build it?, OCZ is marketing company after all, not a PSU manufacture.

The Seasonic 12 is a better PSU. Higher efficiency, APFC, and uses much higher quality components in its build. And it is certified for SLI, not that it means anything.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: thestain
it is not certified for the power sli and crossfire set ups, those using quad sli, those using an extra ppu, those using 1900XTX's in crossfire or those using 7900 GTX's in SLI, but just for the regular ones.

So I'm guessing no certification = no run, eh?

It has had issues relating to recycling hot air back into the top area of the case in front of the power supply as well..

This is a compromise for being the quietest PSU available.

check of sites like newegg will show some quality issues related to DOA, etc.. nice power supply, but not perfect.

Which means that Seasonic is an inferior brand, does it?

with reading from the wall socket hitting well over 700W from time to time.

What rig are you using?

 

[CreepieDeCrapper]

Originally posted by: pkme2
Maybe a better deal here.
http://www.xoxide.com/seasonic.html?gclid=CILB1rXOqoUCFTV7JAodDwtd3Q

nice price on that PSU, but make sure Xoxide is selling the latest (3rd) revision at that price... Seasonic's last revision came out May 2006 and is now SLI and CF certified/approved, it also has sleeved cables and is RoHS compliant (along with new capacitors and a quiter fan that came with the 2nd revision)