which psu?

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: PwAg
Why not drop $75 on an Enermax Whisper II 460watt (33Amp on +12V rail) and call it the day? Enermax has the name and rep that stands with and above all the competition. OCZ is nice if you have the extra $40-70 for adjustable rail and l33t led lights, but otherwise, like Quebert has said, you are kidding yourself. Tagan/Enermax/OCZ are your top choices.

Amen to that. ONly PCP&C instead of Tagan.

-Kevin

Why PCP&C instead of Tagan? Both are great PSU's, the Tagan is quieter.

For quietness definately tagan over the PCP&C but for pure power PCP&C owns all, i would even go as far to say they might surpass Enermax and OCZ in that field.

-Kevin

 

[nealh]

hmm..how sad johnnyguru now knows me as the guy who killed a PSU with my floppy...

 

[GnomeCop]

PCP&P makes extremely good PSUs but their philosophy is that a PSU's job should not include cooling the rest of the system.
They have refused to go with a dual fan system that places a fan facing the cpu. That and the fact that their psu's come with pretty long cables and lots of them (if you dont customize it) you have to consider if its the best "all round" choice.
For a large case with sufficient cooling, the turbocool 510 cant be beat. It supplies power extremely well and in a well cooled case it only has to worry about cooling it self, which is what it does.
Then of course there is price. But we all know they are pricey.

Basically every brand has a high end/high quality model(s) and every brand has a low end/low quality model(s), you just have to pick and choose with a little research.

I've used all kinds, I have no brand loyalty, when one brand comes out with something really good, I may give it a shot.
The ULTRA psu looks fine, a little gaudy, but I know ppl are into that stuff. Quite a few reviews say its great, but is a little louder than most others, so that takes it off the list of psus for me.

 

[toin7]

guys lets stay on topic. which one should i get for overclocking? the ultra x-connect 500w or the ocz powerstream 420w?
i dont really care about noise as long as it's not delta or tornado fan loud.

 

[Gamingphreek]

OCZ hands down!!

 

[Omega Ohm]

Originally posted by: toin7
guys lets stay on topic. which one should i get for overclocking? the ultra x-connect 500w or the ocz powerstream 420w?
i dont really care about noise as long as it's not delta or tornado fan loud.

Either one, flip a coin.

 

[nealh]

whats more important..modular setup and more watts...or longer warranty and adjust pots for 3.3,5,12 v rails

Personally I would go OCZ but then again I did ....I looked at the Ultra too...but for $137 from Monarch computers with 2 day fedex I got OCZ 520w vs Compusa Ultra 500w for $99plus $7 tax=$107..I preferred the better warranty and more stable power with adjust rails if ever needed for stability...so $30 more was no big deal..besides I refuse to buy from Compusa though it was more convenient because they charge a restocking fee which I feel is a no-no as B&M retail store

 

[Gamingphreek]

The OCZ is SOOOO much better than the Ultra. The Ultra is flashy and is not even in the same league as Antec ENermax OCZ PCP&C. Right below them i would have to say is Tagan, Zippy, Zalman.

The Ultras are all flash, they are not the powerful high end PSU. The only pros are the modular cables and sleek designs.

-Kevin

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
The OCZ is SOOOO much better than the Ultra. The Ultra is flashy and is not even in the same league as Antec ENermax OCZ PCP&C. Right below them i would have to say is Tagan, Zippy, Zalman.

The Ultras are all flash, they are not the powerful high end PSU. The only pros are the modular cables and sleek designs.

-Kevin

See... It's posts like this that just prove that this is not a forum of educated opinions.

I like Zalman's products. Their power supplies are in fact quiet. But the Zalman power supply is probably the WORST MADE of every brand you mentioned. I used to sell them. The failure rates were VERY HIGH and the construction VERY POOR. Loose caps, bad solders. Worse than Antec. Enermax isn't much better, but at least better than Antec and Zalman. Certainly not as good as PCP&C or Ultra or Tagan or even Sparkle, Enlight or TTGI.

Has anyone here actually worked at a retailer that has sold power supplies? Have ever taken apart multiple power supplies and/or have had to warranty mass quantities of power supplies?

Like some people here, I haven't used or sold or have done warranty for an OCZ power supply, so I can't comment on OCZ. But I suggest unless you've actually USED or even SEEN both close up right next to each other, you best not make judgement calls.

 

[Gamingphreek]

So your saying that my post are uneducated. Go ahead humor me. That Ultra is CRAP compared to the brands listed. DO you even read reviews???

Look heres one:

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/psus/index.x?pg=1

 

[beatle]

I picked up an OCZ 470 last week and it's very solid. I wanted the easily adjustable pots and 5 year warranty. I have a lot of devices in my system anyway, so the modularity of the Ultra doesn't help me as much as it might help someone with fewer devices.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Well i think my point came accross unclear. The Ultras are not bad PSU's they are pretty good and nice looking... however OCZ and PCP&C systems deliver much more power, and in the OCZ's case it is much quieter.

-Kevin

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
The OCZ is SOOOO much better than the Ultra. The Ultra is flashy and is not even in the same league as Antec ENermax OCZ PCP&C. Right below them i would have to say is Tagan, Zippy, Zalman.

The Ultras are all flash, they are not the powerful high end PSU. The only pros are the modular cables and sleek designs.

-Kevin

See... It's posts like this that just prove that this is not a forum of educated opinions.

I like Zalman's products. Their power supplies are in fact quiet. But the Zalman power supply is probably the WORST MADE of every brand you mentioned. I used to sell them. The failure rates were VERY HIGH and the construction VERY POOR. Loose caps, bad solders. Worse than Antec. Enermax isn't much better, but at least better than Antec and Zalman. Certainly not as good as PCP&C or Ultra or Tagan or even Sparkle, Enlight or TTGI.

Has anyone here actually worked at a retailer that has sold power supplies? Have ever taken apart multiple power supplies and/or have had to warranty mass quantities of power supplies?

Like some people here, I haven't used or sold or have done warranty for an OCZ power supply, so I can't comment on OCZ. But I suggest unless you've actually USED or even SEEN both close up right next to each other, you best not make judgement calls.

That dosn't make any sense at all. All Zalman's are OEM'd from Forton who makes some of the best out there, PCP&C for example.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
No they are not. It isn't all about power, IIRC the Ultra has very unstable rails, with a lot of power spiking. Also not too efficient. All Ultra is is flashy. The only pro i see is modular cables.

-Kevin

I am telling you without a word of a lie, it's the most stable power supply I've ever owned.

rails are almost exactly spot on, under load, or under no load... it's extremely stable.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
The OCZ is SOOOO much better than the Ultra. The Ultra is flashy and is not even in the same league as Antec ENermax OCZ PCP&C. Right below them i would have to say is Tagan, Zippy, Zalman.

The Ultras are all flash, they are not the powerful high end PSU. The only pros are the modular cables and sleek designs.

-Kevin

See... It's posts like this that just prove that this is not a forum of educated opinions.

agree, don't need to say any more.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Did you not read my LAST post. Also i dont know how im uneducated all ~2500 of my posts had to come from somewhere. My last post should clear some of this up though.

-Kevin

 

[Operandi]

Here is a good review of the Ultra. It was able to provide 500watts without much trouble so I don't think you can say it isn't a high power unit. On the other hand if you take a look at the internal shots on page two the build quality defiantly doesn?t inspire much confidence, doesn?t look like a $100+ PSU to me.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Did you not read my LAST post. Also i dont know how im uneducated all ~2500 of my posts had to come from somewhere. My last post should clear some of this up though.

-Kevin

I did read your last post... how do you know those power supplies deliver more power?

has anyone maxed out the power load on all of the PSU's and figured out what exactly has the MOST power output? I haven't seen anything like that personally...

what I have seen is that the Ultra (in some of the reviews) had a lot of stuff hooked up to it, (high end system lets say) and it handled it in stride....something a generic or crappy power supply can't do at least, but it doesn't prove who has the most power.... it just proves the Ultra is powerful enough for anything the average power user will throw at it.