Which profession do you think is more prestigious?

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torpid

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Originally posted by: Kelemvor
Piano easily. Who the hell cares about someone playing chess. Whereas piano is something that gets shared to the people listening that everyone can enjoy. You hear piano all the time (TV Commercials, elevators, hold music, etc.) You never see people playing chess unless you go seek them out.

Much of the piano you hear in day-to-day life is not being performed by a professional piano player. They are a professional, and they played or simulated the piano, but they are not "professional piano players".
 

BladeVenom

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Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.
 

caspur

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Jennifer Shahade has male groupies? So much has change since her younger days at the high school meets. She was just an ugly girl with some crazy chess skills. Couple of my team members had a thing for Irina Krush though. However, I don't recall any decent looking girls from playing chess in NY. Then again, I ruined what little chess skill I had playing speed chess and bughouse.
 

DrPizza

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(pre-edit - weird, somehow my post posted itself before I finished typing it earlier?)

Originally posted by: gamepad
A professional chess player (think Kaskarov) or a professional concert pianist of commensurate skill?

Edit: I'll add input. These are two widely unknown fields to the average American. I think most people have heard the name Kasparov, making chess more prestigious. One doesn't hear much about professional pianists unless one is actually interested in that field.

Minor correction: One doesn't hear about professional concert pianists unless one is actually interested in that field. If you open it up to pianists of other genres, then I think they win. Who's more famous? I can only name 10-15 chess players off the top of my head - and that's because I used to study chess a lot when I was in high school. But, I can name dozens upon dozens of pianists (I can't name any live concert pianists though) from other genres such as jazz, pop, or rock.
Scott Joplin, Duke Ellington, Nat King Cole, Thelonious Monk, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock
(There's something disturbing about this Herbie Hancock video: Rock It )
Better Herbie Hancock: Cantaloupe Island
Herbie Hancock & Chick Corea duet

Maybe the some of the jazz pianists are a little unknown, but how many people have heard of Liberace? Probably just as many as Kasparov.

Then, in pop/rock, you have:
Billy Joel, Elton John, Steven Tyler, Paul McCartney,... (a huge list)
If you wanted both fame and fortune, would you rather have a life like Billy Joel? Or Gary Kasparov (who's not well liked in Russia as a result of his politics.)
Before you answer, two words: Christie Brinkley
Who did Kasparov marry?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.

Poppycock.
 

Yongsta

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.

And in terms of Go, computers get dominated by noobs.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
If you wanted both fame and fortune, would you rather have a life like Billy Joel? Or Gary Kasparov (who's not well liked in Russia as a result of his politics.)
Before you answer, two words: Christie Brinkley
Who did Kasparov marry?

I think you understated his situation in Russia. Who cares whom he married? Joel may have a lot of problems but at least he is not under a constant threat of assassination.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.

Ok, this thread is officially ridiculous.
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.

Poppycock.

What, never heard of player pianos?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Chess, it requires far more intelligence. Machines could play the Piano over a 100 years ago. It was only in recent times that machines could play chess.

Poppycock.

What, never heard of player pianos?

Yes, I have. That does not indicate that chess "requires far more intelligence." It indicates that it's easier to make a machine play piano than it is to make a machine play chess. That's indicative of the linear nature of sheet music versus the dynamic options in chess. Now, if they'd set about making a machine over 100 years ago to play out a specific game of chess, they could have done that. They could probably even make it read from rolls in a similar fashion as player pianos.