Which P4 to use ? 3gh/512/800 or 3.06ghz/1m/533 ?

[Dazed and Confused]

Kinda currious as to which CPU you guys think would be better in a desktop that is used for general use and some light gaming. A P4 3ghz/512/800 or a P4-M 3.06ghz/1m/533 ?

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It's an HP a450n and there won't be any OverClocking. And the P4-M is a 478 pin design that will fit in the desktop socket as they are both physically identical. The mobo is the HP P4SD-LA Intel 865P based mobo. I already own both CPU's so no money is going to be spent.

I already have the 3ghz/512/800 de-lidded and installed and was just wondering if it'd be worth it to move to the 3.06ghz/1m/533 .

 

[Foxery]

"M" stands for Mobile, in the second one. It might not plug in to a desktop motherboard.

Do you have any choice about the motherboard, or do you already own that? If you have, or can get one, which supports any Core2 chips, there are cheap ones which will last you longer.

 

[secretanchitman]

out of those two you selected...the 3Ghz/512/800fsb.

if you were buy ANY cpu today, stay away from any p4/athlon64....you should at least be looking at an athlon x2/phenom/core 2 duo/core 2 quad.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
out of those two you selected...the 3Ghz/512/800fsb.

if you were buy ANY cpu today, stay away from any p4/athlon64....you should at least be looking at an athlon x2/phenom/core 2 duo/core 2 quad.

QFT

 

[JWade]

he probably has an older system he is looking to upgrade. If the board supports the mobile chip, i would say get that and overclock it

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
out of those two you selected...the 3Ghz/512/800fsb.

if you were buy ANY cpu today, stay away from any p4/athlon64....you should at least be looking at an athlon x2/phenom/core 2 duo/core 2 quad.

Exactly.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
out of those two you selected...the 3Ghz/512/800fsb.

if you were buy ANY cpu today, stay away from any p4/athlon64....you should at least be looking at an athlon x2/phenom/core 2 duo/core 2 quad.

Exactly.

Wow, you guys are those that will do whatever Intel/AMD tell you to huh ? Well, lets see . . . I don't play any dual core optimized games, I don't run a server, I don't number crunch , I don't do any editing of anything and I don't like wasting money. Tell me again that I need a dual core CPU so I can be prepared to laugh at you all next time

What I need is a basic single core CPU and even a " SOCKET A SEMPRON " ( Ooh, bet that scares you new tech fan boys ) would work fine for what I'm doing, I'm only upgrading this pos HP cause I got the spare parts lying arround so it's costing me nothing to do so or I wouldn't do so.

Fn fanboys.

 

[AmberClad]

I don't know what you're getting so worked up about. I'm pretty sure they're referring to if you were looking for a new CPU for a build, as opposed to working with parts lying around/upgrading a current system. I don't see the fanboyism there.

 

[Foxery]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
Wow, you guys are those that will do whatever Intel/AMD tell you to huh ? Tell me again that I need a dual core CPU so I can be prepared to laugh at you all next time

Actually, we recommend newer processors because they consume less electricity and produce less heat than the piece of shit architecture that was the Pentium 4. They cost the same amount of money now, so the performance is a free bonus.

Sorry for trying to help!

I'm only upgrading this pos HP cause I got the spare parts lying arround so it's costing me nothing to do so or I wouldn't do so.

If you had said this in the OP, it would have been a different story entirely.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
out of those two you selected...the 3Ghz/512/800fsb.

if you were buy ANY cpu today, stay away from any p4/athlon64....you should at least be looking at an athlon x2/phenom/core 2 duo/core 2 quad.

Exactly.

Wow, you guys are those that will do whatever Intel/AMD tell you to huh ? Well, lets see . . . I don't play any dual core optimized games, I don't run a server, I don't number crunch , I don't do any editing of anything and I don't like wasting money. Tell me again that I need a dual core CPU so I can be prepared to laugh at you all next time

What I need is a basic single core CPU and even a " SOCKET A SEMPRON " ( Ooh, bet that scares you new tech fan boys ) would work fine for what I'm doing, I'm only upgrading this pos HP cause I got the spare parts lying arround so it's costing me nothing to do so or I wouldn't do so.

Fn fanboys.

Sorry for trying to help man. You sure are a moron. Why didn't you say that in the beginning, so we wouldn't waste time on this stupid thread you wrote? Anyway you can buy yourself a beautiful P3 or any Duron you like, but please don't ask anybody for help next time.

You are lacking a brain surely.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

If all the above statements were true then why not recommend the LE-1600 AM2 cpu or the Sparta 1100 ? Or why not the Celeron 430 ? Instead you recommend the C2D, x2 and omfg the Phenom and C2Q ( Massive overkill ) ? For GP and "light" gaming ? Omfg don't lie to me and yourself trying to push CPU's like that when in the OP and title I state for "GP and light gaming".

Matter of a fact, I didn't even say I was looking for a different cpu/mobo. I said which is better, the 3ghz or the 3.06ghz ? I don't know how the hell you get into puching S775 and AM2 cpu's which will require a new mobo, I didn't say I was doing a full system upgrade did I ?

So far Jwade is the only one that seems to get the point of my orriginal un-edited OP. He was able to read, comprehend and reply with a logical suggestion.

Kudos to Jwade for showing the ability to read/comprehend clearly typed english and to excersise common sense with his response.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
If all the above statements were true then why not recommend the LE-1600 AM2 cpu or the Sparta 1100 ? Or why not the Celeron 430 ? Instead you recommend the C2D, x2 and omfg the Phenom and C2Q ( Massive overkill ) ? For GP and "light" gaming ? Omfg don't lie to me and yourself trying to push CPU's like that when in the OP and title I state for "GP and light gaming".

Matter of a fact, I didn't even say I was looking for a different cpu/mobo. I said which is better, the 3ghz or the 3.06ghz ? I don't know how the hell you get into puching S775 and AM2 cpu's which will require a new mobo, I didn't say I was doing a full system upgrade did I ?

So far Jwade is the only one that seems to get the point of my orriginal un-edited OP. He was able to read, comprehend and reply with a logical suggestion.

Kudos to Jwade for showing the ability to read/comprehend clearly typed english and to excersise common sense with his response.

The point was that you can't be a fanboy when you recommend both Intel and AMD cpus. And also I haven't understand your hostility when we were trying to give you a good CPU. Yeah, kill us for that!!!

It doesn't matter anyway, you showed us what kind of human you are.

 

[Acanthus]

Damn us fanboys reccomending $60 CPUs

 

[themisfit610]

Seriously.

But let's get back to earth. The OP has a Socket 478 board, and two processors - a 3 GHz / 800MHz desktop chip, and a 3.06 GHz / 533 MHz mobile chip. He's not looking to buy anything!

The mobile chip has more cache, and likely runs cooler (quieter, and less wasted power). It's reduced FSB may or may not be a hindrance, IIRC FSB was kind of a big deal with Netburst chips. I never owned one, so I can't say for sure.

I would say go with the mobile processor for the extra cache, and the reduced power consumption / heat generation.

~MiSfit

 

[BudAshes]

OP has anger management issues.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Nice thread crap BudAshes. Looks like you have issues following forum rules. If it's not pertinent to the OP or isn't constructive it's a thread crap and should be kept to yourself or to a PM.

Anyhoo. I'm prob gonna stick with the 3ghz/512/800 for now as what little pertinent info I got outta this debacle wasn't enough to convince me to change chips :/

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
Nice thread crap BudAshes. Looks like you have issues following forum rules. If it's not pertinent to the OP or isn't constructive it's a thread crap and should be kept to yourself or to a PM.

Anyhoo. I'm prob gonna stick with the 3ghz/512/800 for now as what little pertinent info I got outta this debacle wasn't enough to convince me to change chips :/

I'm glad i could help.

 

[CurseTheSky]

If you have both chips sitting next to eachother, I would just plug in each one and do some quick testing. If one of them has a noticeable advantage over the other, use it. It should only cost you the time of removing the heatsink, swapping out CPUs, and reapplying some thermal paste.

 

[stevty2889]

1MB cache=prescott, prescott=utter crap(it will likely run hotter, even though it's a "mobile" chip, and even though it has more cache, the prescott has slower cache than northwood, just keep the northwood you already have in there.

And you could try being nice to the people that really were giving good advice, because if you were building a new machine, rather than upgrading using what you have laying around, even if you didn't NEED a better CPU, it would be foolish to use out of date, overheating pile of crap CPU's that aren't manufactured anymore..

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: stevty2889
1MB cache=prescott, prescott=utter crap(it will likely run hotter, even though it's a "mobile" chip, and even though it has more cache, the prescott has slower cache than northwood, just keep the northwood you already have in there.

And you could try being nice to the people that really were giving good advice, because if you were building a new machine, rather than upgrading using what you have laying around, even if you didn't NEED a better CPU, it would be foolish to use out of date, overheating pile of crap CPU's that aren't manufactured anymore..

QFT

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: stevty2889
1MB cache=prescott, prescott=utter crap(it will likely run hotter, even though it's a "mobile" chip, and even though it has more cache, the prescott has slower cache than northwood, just keep the northwood you already have in there.

And you could try being nice to the people that really were giving good advice, because if you were building a new machine, rather than upgrading using what you have laying around, even if you didn't NEED a better CPU, it would be foolish to use out of date, overheating pile of crap CPU's that aren't manufactured anymore..

QFT

i stated that if you were picking between those two cpus...pick the 3Ghz/512/800. and guess what? you did. how do you conclude that we are trying to sway you with faster, "overkill" processors, let alone a complete system rebuild? i said that if you were considering ANY cpu (and not just between the p4s), pick the c2d/athlon x2 stuff. of course, you didnt even state that in your original unedited post, so i just gave this answer in case you were.

sheesh OP. seriously...dont be a jackass ( sorry for the language) about it. we're trying to help you and not play you down because you have to pick between p4s for cpus.

foxery is right, todays cpus use way less power, are affordable, and are faster than what you are picking. now whether you want to believe that, call us fanboys because we are stating the truth for both amd and intel, or whatnot is completely up to you. honestly, i dont know how we can be fanboys when we all are recommending BOTH intel and amd...whatever.

and for the record, dont assume that we're trying to push you to get todays processors. we arent. none of us are. we all said you SHOULD go for them if you are looking for ANY processor, but you arent. you are only deciding between those two p4s and we gave you an answer for that to begin with.

have a good day.