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Which Nehalem to Get

J

Jingato

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After Reading today's Nehalem Review, I'm a little indecisive on which Model to get when I build my new system. I was originally going to get the 965 for the higher performance. But they reviewer said they were able to overclock the 920 to 3.8 on air and remain stable. The 920 is 1/3 of the price of the 965.Why not buy the 920 and overclock it. That would leave me with more cash to invest into parts like an Intel SSD. If I had both processors clocked at 3.8Ghz, wouldn't the have the same performance?

Ant thoughts? Would there still be a big advantage to the 965 somehow, besides being easier to overclock?
 
the 940 is the cut mark right now.

the 965 if you can afford it.

the 920 if you want to get your feet wet.


My recomendation for people doing a true migration is get the 940 and dont look back, on a nice X58 board.

 
(Checks his wallet) The 920. (Checks his wallet again) At the end of next year when hopefully the economy will be on the upswing again.
 
Why would you pay twice as much for the 940 when it only gets you a marginally better overclock than the 920?
 
Originally posted by: Compddd
Why would you pay twice as much for the 940 when it only gets you a marginally better overclock than the 920?
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Exactly. I say buy the 920 or the extreme; skip the 940.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
the 940 is the cut mark right now.

the 965 if you can afford it.

the 920 if you want to get your feet wet.


My recomendation for people doing a true migration is get the 940 and dont look back, on a nice X58 board.
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What's the PPD using F@H and the SMP client ?
 
Originally posted by: ExarKun333
Originally posted by: Compddd
Why would you pay twice as much for the 940 when it only gets you a marginally better overclock than the 920?
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Exactly. I say buy the 920 or the extreme; skip the 940.
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same question was asked what they should get a E6400 vs a E6600.

And guess who won? 😛

Same scenario, take me as a grain of salt id say, but the 940 is where i would cut my mark at.

the 965 would be a waste, the 940 is the sweet spot.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: aigomorla
the 940 is the cut mark right now.

the 965 if you can afford it.

the 920 if you want to get your feet wet.


My recomendation for people doing a true migration is get the 940 and dont look back, on a nice X58 board.
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What's the PPD using F@H and the SMP client ?
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http://img340.imageshack.us/im...00/nellyfah3733fm6.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/im...nellygpucpu3733ob4.jpg
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If thats yours, I need to see the PPD column, as it has a GPU client, and that could be 7000 all by itself !

I found your source. They are ~2500 each 5000 total. My Q9450 does 4350, so its a decent gain, but I get way more PPD by just adding 2 more cards for $213 (shipped) for 10k ppd increate, instead of $1000 or more for a 5k ppd increase.(i7)
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: aigomorla
the 940 is the cut mark right now.

the 965 if you can afford it.

the 920 if you want to get your feet wet.


My recomendation for people doing a true migration is get the 940 and dont look back, on a nice X58 board.
Click to expand...

What's the PPD using F@H and the SMP client ?
Click to expand...

http://img340.imageshack.us/im...00/nellyfah3733fm6.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/im...nellygpucpu3733ob4.jpg
Click to expand...

If thats yours, I need to see the PPD column, as it has a GPU client, and that could be 7000 all by itself !

I found your source. They are ~2500 each 5000 total. My Q9450 does 4350, so its a decent gain, but I get way more PPD by just adding 2 more cards for $213 (shipped) for 10k ppd increate, instead of $1000 or more for a 5k ppd increase.(i7)
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Mine wouldnt overclock remember. 😛

those are at conservative voltage too, he can get 4ghz, but on stock sink it gets way too hot.

Mark the 940 is showing to do well.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: aigomorla
the 940 is the cut mark right now.

the 965 if you can afford it.

the 920 if you want to get your feet wet.


My recomendation for people doing a true migration is get the 940 and dont look back, on a nice X58 board.
Click to expand...

What's the PPD using F@H and the SMP client ?
Click to expand...

http://img340.imageshack.us/im...00/nellyfah3733fm6.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/im...nellygpucpu3733ob4.jpg
Click to expand...

If thats yours, I need to see the PPD column, as it has a GPU client, and that could be 7000 all by itself !

I found your source. They are ~2500 each 5000 total. My Q9450 does 4350, so its a decent gain, but I get way more PPD by just adding 2 more cards for $213 (shipped) for 10k ppd increate, instead of $1000 or more for a 5k ppd increase.(i7)
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Mine wouldnt overclock remember. 😛

those are at conservative voltage too, he can get 4ghz, but on stock sink it gets way too hot.

Mark the 940 is showing to do well.
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hmmm...is that overclocked ppd...as well what about running more smps...4cores is 2 smps...although there is only 4 physical cores there is 8 threads so would there be potential for 4 smps

actually can someone give me the link to that (I know 36362 is XS but i can't find that)
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: ExarKun333
Originally posted by: Compddd
Why would you pay twice as much for the 940 when it only gets you a marginally better overclock than the 920?
Click to expand...

Exactly. I say buy the 920 or the extreme; skip the 940.
Click to expand...

same question was asked what they should get a E6400 vs a E6600.

And guess who won? 😛

Same scenario, take me as a grain of salt id say, but the 940 is where i would cut my mark at.

the 965 would be a waste, the 940 is the sweet spot.
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????
The only difference between the 920 and 940 is clock speed. The E6400 was slower and had half the L2 cache as the E6600. I don't see this situation being all that similar. The 940 would just be worth the extra cash for someone who really wanted to get a better overclock.
 
Buy the 920. Thats the smart buy. Look Its going to be fast at 3.4ghz+ . YOU will never have the worlds no.1 performer. So use your $$$ smart.
Now I know this gets old. But don't forget about the Hydra Chip coming in 1st qt. 09. Buying now . Could be self kicking ass later. Just a thought.
 
Agreed, the i920 makes the most sense from a price/performance perspective, why would you pay twice as much for a 10% clockspeed boost, and probably less after overclocking?
 
my my..

i find it funny how none of you guys got to play with one, yet your already picking over the guy who do has one.

Funny isnt it?

Ive seen 920, 940, 965's.

Ask a current i7 owner what he also recomends. 🙂

can i remind you guys your talking to someone who has these?
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0092.jpg

whatever, take me as a grain of salt.
 
So aigo, please explain why. Your comparison to e6600 and e6400 didn't work to clarify it for us, since they have different cache amounts. (I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just sayng that example didn't make it clear)

There's no more nda, so you're free to tell all. So tell it, damn it! 😉
 
Originally posted by: magreen
So aigo, please explain why. Your comparison to e6600 and e6400 didn't work to clarify it for us, since they have different cache amounts. (I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just sayng that example didn't make it clear)

There's no more nda, so you're free to tell all. So tell it, damn it! 😉
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the 940's are all hitting 4 or very close to 4ghz on AIR stock heat sink.

the 920's are bellowing out at around 3.6

Remember 200 QPI is very difficult. It would be like 400fsb of way back ago.

Now whats different? well back then 200mhz wasnt very much. But now the i7 arch, 200mhz is a lot of gain. [HyperThreadding}

I asked all my friends what the most recomended chip was, using the decient classed ram, they all spat out 940.

the 940 under most situations will = a 965.

A 965 will eat a 940 under water but risk damaging ram from higher overclocking.
the 920 is back there watching the 965 and 940 battling it out, becuase it knows it cant stand a chance between those 2.

oh did i fail to note memory and cpu voltages are connected now. So yes, like the old X2's you can damage your ram from overclocking. :T

so the 940 is also the SAFER/LAZY route in overclocking.

The 920 will bring out the more anal tweekers, that like to fiddle more with specific things, but i really dont recomend this processor unless u know what your doing.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: magreen
So aigo, please explain why. Your comparison to e6600 and e6400 didn't work to clarify it for us, since they have different cache amounts. (I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just sayng that example didn't make it clear)

There's no more nda, so you're free to tell all. So tell it, damn it! 😉
Click to expand...

the 940's are all hitting 4 or very close to 4ghz on AIR stock heat sink.

the 920's are bellowing out at around 3.6

Remember 200 QPI is very difficult. It would be like 400fsb of way back ago.

Now whats different? well back then 200mhz wasnt very much. But now the i7 arch, 200mhz is a lot of gain. [HyperThreadding}

I asked all my friends what the most recomended chip was, using the decient classed ram, they all spat out 940.

the 940 under most situations will = a 965.

A 965 will eat a 940 under water but risk damaging ram from higher overclocking.
the 920 is back there watching the 965 and 940 battling it out, becuase it knows it cant stand a chance between those 2.

oh did i fail to note memory and cpu voltages are connected now. So yes, like the old X2's you can damage your ram from overclocking. :T

so the 940 is also the SAFER/LAZY route in overclocking.

The 920 will bring out the more anal tweekers, that like to fiddle more with specific things, but i really dont recomend this processor unless u know what your doing.
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I like the 920 because it should hit a pretty good OC, and you can save your cash for a CPU upgrade in 6 months or so. To me (this wouldnt apply to everyone) the extra cash isnt worth the 300 mhz bump I would likely get with NORMAL cooling like a stock or decently-priced aftermarket HSF.

For around $800.00 you get a great MB that works with SLI/CF, a 920, and 6 GB's or RAM. I would rather spend the extra 200.00 on an extra graphics card or more RAM.
 
Choice between the 920 and 940 is very different from the e6400 and e6600. The latter was only $80 difference. The 940 is around $250 more than the 920.
 
blah take me as a grain of salt.

thats all i'll say.

But i have an annoying habbit of being right when im this strong behind something. :T
Ask my friends that know me.

Mark, IDC, u guys wanna vouch for me. 😀
 
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