Which Military Branch gets deployed first in a war

[spliffstar69]

When it comes to the ground campaign,
Im saying the Marines go in first
others are saying its the Army. Which is it?

I cant find info anywhere saying which service branch goes in first.


Thanks

 

[imported_LoKe]

I would assume the Army, then Marines come in for some muscle.

 

[xdreadpiratedoug]

Probably a combination of the Special Forces - but you can pretty much be guaranteed that a Air Force Forward Air Controller is on the ground with who ever does come in first.

 

[Megatomic]

Yeah, spec ops arrive first.

 

[OutHouse]

depends on the mission. most of the time is SF forces from all branches to augment thier main attack force. Like for the Air Force the TacP's drop in with a SF unit before DDay.

 

[pjcolon]

I think it really depends on the situation cause t the Marines and Army are setup somewhat differently form each other.

I belive the reaosn for this is that Marine logistics are setup for fast deployments and short tours of duty, i.e. a few months. While Army logistics are setup for extend tours fo duty that can last from several months to years.
If your needing a force to get somewhere fast and be done with their objective in a "fast" way then you would send in the Marines first. But if you know that the objective might take some time in being completed you would send in the Army first.

 

[lupi]

Just remember, the first question the prez always ask is where is the nearest carrier battlegroup

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: lupi
Just remember, the first question the prez always ask is where is the nearest carrier battlegroup

Yeah....gotta have something to transport the Marines on.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Jack Bauer

or "The Unit"

 

[The Boston Dangler]

the first branches to act are either the AF or Navy, with aerial intelligence gathering.

 

[George P Burdell]

I'd guess it's NOT the navy.

 

[nick1985]

Thats easy,

The Marine Corps

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

Did you not read the OP? Marines or Army

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
For some reasons i don't think landing Marines from a beach is faster than dropping paratroopers from a C-130

fixed

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

Did you not read the OP? Marines or Army

Oh crap, sorry. Its 1 am, and I'm supposed to be finishing up my danm essay.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

not ture. MEU's (Marine Expiditionary Units) are at all times capable of being anywhere in the world in under 48 hours. MEU's are a seaborne combination of infantry and air power.

The Marine Corps distinguishes itself from the Army by defining its forces as "Expiditionary in nature" meaning they are designed to be a first in, spearhead force. The old sayings "First to go, last to know", and the WWII recruiting posters "First to Fight" were synonymous with Marines.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

Did you not read the OP? Marines or Army

Oh crap, sorry. Its 1 am, and I'm supposed to be finishing up my danm essay.

Hehe, sorry I didnt mean to be hard on ya :beer: for you

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

Keep in mind the Marine Corps also has its own mini air-force.

 

[Judgement]

Marines would be the first substantial force in most situations. Navy/Special Ops would be there ahead of time in small numbers.. mostly to scout.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

not ture. MEU's (Marine Expiditionary Units) are at all times capable of being anywhere in the world in under 48 hours. MEU's are a seaborne combination of infantry and air power.

The Marine Corps distinguishes itself from the Army by defining its forces as "Expiditionary in nature" meaning they are designed to be a first in, spearhead force. The old sayings "First to go, last to know", and the WWII recruiting posters "First to Fight" were synonymous with Marines.

That may be true until they invented airplanes and Army's paratroopers.

They had both of those in WWII.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

not ture. MEU's (Marine Expiditionary Units) are at all times capable of being anywhere in the world in under 48 hours. MEU's are a seaborne combination of infantry and air power.

The Marine Corps distinguishes itself from the Army by defining its forces as "Expiditionary in nature" meaning they are designed to be a first in, spearhead force. The old sayings "First to go, last to know", and the WWII recruiting posters "First to Fight" were synonymous with Marines.

That may be true until they invented airplanes and Army's paratroopers.

MEU's were invented AFTER planes and paratroopers.

Army units still would have to load up (on Air Force planes, assuming the troops and the gear are at an AFB), fly to wherever, then drop them, WAYYY too slow.

MEU's have the advantage of being all over the place, they typically hang out in the Indian Ocean or Persian Gulf, Pacific, and Mediteranean all at once, ready to pounce. They also have the advantage of having Marine and Navy planes and helo's right there.

Pouncing on a situation lickity split is what MEU's were designed to do. Not to diss the Army's airborne units, but they are just too huge to get anywhere fast. MEU's on the other hand are small, and can only act as a stop gap until larger amounts of troops arrive.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

not ture. MEU's (Marine Expiditionary Units) are at all times capable of being anywhere in the world in under 48 hours. MEU's are a seaborne combination of infantry and air power.

The Marine Corps distinguishes itself from the Army by defining its forces as "Expiditionary in nature" meaning they are designed to be a first in, spearhead force. The old sayings "First to go, last to know", and the WWII recruiting posters "First to Fight" were synonymous with Marines.

That may be true until they invented airplanes and Army's paratroopers. With modern airplanes, you can deploy a whole division of paratroopers within 24 hours or less.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Army paratroopers have been around forever, but supporting them is a bitch.

The Marines are self-sufficient in that sense, they have AIR, LAND and SEA supports. Anywhere they go, all the supports go with them as well, and in a hurry.

Marines are designed to fight, break the enemy's defense, take the ground. Then and only then, other armed forces can move in an occupy. That's the US war doctrine, and it will be so unless it's a very large land base offensive, if that happens then everything is a go. That would mean you'll have the Marines, Army, Airforce all pound the same thing, together. But trust me that the Marines will have their shits together first.

 

[MBrown]

Marines

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
Paratroopers don't carry anything on them except for their weapons and whatever they have on their backs.

uhh, no. Airborne DIVISIONS take tanks and arty with them.

MEU have everything from tanks, artillery, and armored vehicles.

Wrong again buddy, the infantry component of a MEU is simple a rifle battalion

Heavy weaponry is not an option for paratroopers because the parachutes can't handle the weights.

You tellin me they dont air drop tanks? LOL dude you might want to look that up.

You can literally land thousands of marines and tons of equipment off one ship, but you cannot do that with a C-130.

MEU's do most of thier landings by helicopter, amphibious landings are pretty rare.

Common sense tells me that the more men you have and the more equipments you have, the slower you are.

If you knew any facts you would be right. But a single Marine rifle battalion is about 1/15th the size of an Airborne division. Not to mention they carry less gear.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I would think Air Force. They are the only ones who are mobile enough to actually be able to do anything within the first couple of days of war.

not ture. MEU's (Marine Expiditionary Units) are at all times capable of being anywhere in the world in under 48 hours. MEU's are a seaborne combination of infantry and air power.

The Marine Corps distinguishes itself from the Army by defining its forces as "Expiditionary in nature" meaning they are designed to be a first in, spearhead force. The old sayings "First to go, last to know", and the WWII recruiting posters "First to Fight" were synonymous with Marines.

That may be true until they invented airplanes and Army's paratroopers.

They still would have to load up (on Air Force planes, assuming the troops and the gear are at an AFB), fly to wherever, then drop them, WAYYY too slow.

MEU's have the advantage of being all over the place, they typically hang out in the Indian Ocean or Persian Gulf, Pacific, and Mediteranean all at once, ready to pounce. They also have the advantage of having Marine and Navy planes and helo's right there.

Pouncing on a situation lickity split is what MEU's were designed to do. Not to diss the Army's airborne units, but they are just too huge to get anywhere fast. MEU's on the other hand are small, and can only act as a stop gap until larger amounts of troops arrive.

Paratroopers don't carry anything on them except for their weapons and whatever they have on their backs. MEU have everything from tanks, artillery, and armored vehicles. Heavy weaponry is not an option for paratroopers because the parachutes can't handle the weights. You can literally land thousands of marines and tons of equipment off one ship, but you cannot do that with a C-130.

Common sense tells me that the more men you have and the more equipments you have, the slower you are.

Wow you are dumb. I love when people who have no knowledge for how the military works start spewing their garbage.