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Which is the better deal for the buck?

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Trust me, server lifecycles are far greater than that of gamer rigs. That Tyan board is the most future-resistant motherboard I have ever seen in twenty years. And its no problem. I have a rig very similar.

I would reccomend getting two of these. and save $1500. Once dual cores hit, youll probably need to update the bios to support them. Then get a couple and sell your old ones.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-397&depa=1
 
i'm going for

Dual Operaton 244
8GB RAM
1200GB SCSI HDD RAID 0
nVIDIA Quatro Pro 3400

Thank everyone for their help. This system is costing me around $6800, but I believe it is worth it. I'll report on my status in a few days for those that are intrested.

just know that i won't order until around two days later (2/6/05)

if you have any other suggestions/comments please tell them to me (even if it is "you system is a piece of *********" Any response will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
Well if you're going to spend that much money I would think any of those could handle anything you throw at them & overclock nicely. Given the choice I would go for the FX-55...reports are people have overclocked those up to 3.7Ghz!!!! That is massive for an AMD chip...it would be like a 6Ghz P4...lol

What a rediculous misleading post is this? He is not going to have the tools ready to get a FX55 to anywhere near 3.7Ghz. How impractical.
 
Originally posted by: mpmdpz
The 3400+ would be an excellent choice if I was a gamer, but i think it would burn up if it was doing these things at the same time:

Composing a program (exrememly large files and intense graphical items)
Creating and editing a video file (around 50GB)
Creating a software script

To put it in simpler terms, it is like having 50 Doom 3 games running at the same time.

:::SIGH:::

Now how is that possible? It's within 3% performance of three of the chips you have listed? Within 6% of the other two.. You're gonna notice 3%? While at the same time it's 200-400% cheaper. I would notice that.

I don't think you're looking for bang for the buck at all. Ether that or you don't know what it means. Here allow me to explain:

Any first year economics course will explain price/performance curves and how they affect consumer spending. The sensible consumers are the ones that take a detached, unemotional view of buying. This leads to money saved and spent elsewhere where it can better accumulate. It's a fundamental, accepted concept. It's so childish, they don't even bother writing a formula for it. If something costs twice as much it should be twice as good. Or in the case of CPU's twice as fast.

Those chips you have listed are an emotional and a foolish choice right now since it's performance does'nt scale with price. This purchase is not based on an extensive cost/benefit analysis. There is little or no consideration of price/performance ratios. You want hype and you're going to pay a haevy premium for it.

Perhaps you like paying a premium because it sets you apart from the rest of the rabble as being refined, in tune, special.....something powerful you they can tinker with and brag about? There is a definite sense of community because you' know that the vast majority of people have not invested as much money into their computers.

Fine get the FX's, EE and thousand dollar processors. I'll scoff at your "bang for the buck" thread too.

Most OTOH buyers take a more common approach to puchasing. Obviously by it's popularity. They had a rough idea what level of performance would satisfy their requirements, and they compared many products to see which one offered the most performance for the least money. Rationally they understand that the -400-600% price premium would be better spent elsewhere than for 3-6% performance gains. They are not cheap, or poor, or tight-fisted. They simply would rather use that money for something more productive. Like a better video card or SLI. Huge monitor. comfy chair and the like...or even better bank it..or buy stock like I sugessted.

This is the 3400.



 
Yeah, the 640MB 3D Max is pretty good. I think I'll go for that. i've been using 3D max at my job for quite a while too. I think I'll go for what ribbon said on the HDD config since they don't sell the 300GB SCSI HDD to single users.
 
no, no, zebo, i don't brag. what's there to brag about when my friend has this system to work with? (I seriously am not a bragger and i really don't know much about processors beyond the 486.)

My friend has
Dual Intel Itanium 1.5GHz
24GB RAM
4 x 147GB SCSI

I told him to go buy a house, but he spent his money on that $60,000 workstation.

you see, I try to get a top of the line for any cost that is reasonable to me. I am not rich, and probably never will be. Besides, you might see me here 10 years later asking help on another new PC. i don't keep track.

i wish that none of you get offended. none of you should feel jealousy since you will get a better pc than mine. (no i am not a pansy). I just don't think an FX can do all that even though it is based on Operton.

my friend might want your help Zebo. he's a gamer and he need your help in picking an FX. i'll tell him to sign up. You'll know its him because his problem will be based on picking out a gaming computer.
 
Itaniums? Man.... what a waste. Opterons slaps them around, beats them into a corner and then says "B@TCH! Make me a toasted cheese!"
 
Originally posted by: mpmdpz
i'm going for

Dual Operaton 244
8GB RAM
1200GB SCSI HDD RAID 0
nVIDIA Quatro Pro 3400

Thank everyone for their help. This system is costing me around $6800, but I believe it is worth it. I'll report on my status in a few days for those that are intrested.

just know that i won't order until around two days later (2/6/05)

if you have any other suggestions/comments please tell them to me (even if it is "you system is a piece of *********" Any response will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Raid 0 is a really bad idea if you rely on your data (considering this is a work machine, I'm assuming you do).
 
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Itaniums? Man.... what a waste. Opterons slaps them around, beats them into a corner and then says "B@TCH! Make me a toasted cheese!"

Then the b@tch takes some tin shears and cuts the balls off, and toasts them, saying, "want these with cheese, honey?"

Don't mean to make a political statement, but it's jokes like that that keeps endorsing domestic abuse.
 
Originally posted by: mpmdpz
That true SoulCatcher, but I also need a extremely powerful processor. In order to keep my job, i have to freaken multitask like crazy.

I think I MIGHT build this system. I plan to keep the one I build for a VERY LONG TIME. (Around 10-15 years like my 486)

Dual Operton 250
8GB RAM
1.2TB SCSI Hard Drives in RAID 0

See if you can hold on for 6-12 more months. A LOT of new processors and motherboards for them will be coming out. Intel will be having some interesting server configs too. And an Intel system will last you another 10 years.
 
My recommendation for you is. That you should buy a P4 with hyper threading. It looks like you have the dough so you might want go extreme edition. With what you are planning to do I would have to say the the p4's would benifit you more in this situation. So you should go with the Pentium 4 3.46 GHZ EE The spped of these baby's is insane my computer booted into windows before my monitor refreshed. If you are going to do alot of multi tasking. Then p4 is the way to go.

oops! this post was a little late.
 
He's got a point there. You don't need 64-bit technology, but since you have !!!!!!!!!!!!$7920!!!!!!!!!! to spend, go for Dual Xeon 3.6, or if you want to wait for dual cored processors.
 
Intel xeons bottlenecked by the sharing the same single memory controller vs opterons with a dual channel memory on each die? With dual cores this will be even more in AMDs favor. I think for longevity, you're sorely mistaken on which platform has the longer potential life-cycle. Especially with the applications he'll be using it for.
 
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