Which is the better CPU?

[MonKENy]

I would think the first one because it has the 3.9boost and the HD 4600 (unless they both do and the 2nd one doesnt state that)

1.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116941

2.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116901

I just do not see a difference to justify the price difference and review gap.

 

[Deders]

They are pretty much exactly the same except the K version is overclockable with a Z87 motherboard.

 

[escrow4]

I have 4770's non K in both my boxes. I'd go for that (or the 4771) if you don't overclock (I can't be bothered anymore) and deders means Z87. Note that the stock 4770 boosts to around 3.7GHz or 3.8GHz in game anyway depending on core load, and the difference between that and a 4.2Ghz or so average overclock on the K is rather small in most games.

 

[MonKENy]

ok so in this case cheaper IS better for me.

 

[zir_blazer]

Alternatively you also have the cheaper Xeon E3-1245V3, which is 290 U$D minus 15 U$D from a promo code. And it seems to have been soo good that its out of stock...
Also, on LGA 1150 K series Processors you're getting less features in exchange of the Unlocked Multiplier. Intel disables VT-d, TSX, vPro and TXT, which may or not be useful for you, but its less features overall and more expensive.

 

[Blain]

The i7-4770K IS the better CPU, which is what the original question was.
The i7-4771 is the cheaper of the two listed.

 

[MonKENy]

oh ok so not cheaper, works for me

 

[zir_blazer]

The i7-4770K IS the better CPU, which is what the original question was.
The i7-4771 is the cheaper of the two listed.

It isn't better. It just has the Unlocked Multiplier, cost 20 U$D more, and you're losing some other features, thanks to Intel market segmentation strategy. Unless you overclock, it is actually worse.

 

[KaRLiToS]

They are pretty much exactly the same except the K version is overclockable with a Z77 motherboard.

Actually, it's overclockable on the z87 motherboards which is socket 1150.

While the z77 is socket 1155.

 

[coffeejunkee]

I would save another $10 and get the 4770. In reality both 4770 and 4771 will use their turbo frequencies all the time (they are the same for both cpu's).

Or the xeon zir_blazer mentioned, you will probably not notice 100MHz more or less.

 

[Blain]

It isn't better. It just has the Unlocked Multiplier, cost 20 U$D more, and you're losing some other features, thanks to Intel market segmentation strategy. Unless you overclock, it is actually worse.

You're wrong, it is better.

 

[zir_blazer]

You're wrong, it is better.

And what makes it better? The only thing the 4770K has over 4771 is the Unlocked Multiplier. It loses VT-d, TSX, vPro and TXT, and cost more to boot. If no overclocking involved, the 4771 is better on every other aspect.

And the Xeon E3-1245V3 is 275 U$D on Amazon. Saving 45 U$D for 100 MHz less is a good deal.

 

[Compman55]

Overclocking = i7-4770k (would be better)
Price = Xeon E3-1245V3 (would be better)

Skip the 4770 non k period. E3-1245V3 is a better deal.

 

[Zeldak]

"Better," without modifiers such as purpose and situation, is an awfully vague and subjective catch-all assessment.

 

[crashtech]

The better CPU is the one most suited to the user's needs, of which the OP says absolutely nothing.

 

[MonKENy]

The better CPU is the one most suited to the user's needs, of which the OP says absolutely nothing.

gaming

 

[Blain]

And what makes it better?

The world benchmarks for the comparison of one thing to another...
Hence, benchmarks provide information that the i7-4770k is better.

 

[blake0812]

gaming

Enthusiast or all-out?

 

[zir_blazer]

The world benchmarks for the comparison of one thing to another...
Hence, benchmarks provide information that the i7-4770k is better.

The world benchmarks says that they're the same. And that is common sense - how on earth can they perform differently if they're based on the very same die, with the very same specs (3.5 GHz base, 3.9 GHz Turbo, 8 MB Cache L3)?

 

[coffeejunkee]

The 4770 actually has a base freq of 3.4 instead of 3.5 for the 4770K. But like I said, you will never actually see it running at base freq.

Here's another benchmark that shows the difference: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/516/Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html

 

[crashtech]

gaming

No mention of overclocking, but it's safe to assume 4770K; make sure to buy a Z87 motherboard so the clock speed and voltage can be adjusted.

But if you are not going to overclock, you may as well save money and get a Xeon E3-1245v3, it's the same as an i7-4770 but less money.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I'm just going to point out that if you get the 4770non-K, 4771 or 1245v3, you can use a cheaper mainboard, since Z87 is only required for OC'ing. The H87 has all the features and boards based on it is usually a bit cheaper (unless you can get a rebate). You could also cheap out and use a H81/B85 board, if you don't have use for the features the H87/Z87 offers.

 

[MonKENy]

Enthusiast or all-out?

More than enthusiast but not quite all out. I do know I want to try to get as maxed out as possible with a good 50+ fps for the following games

Watch Dogs
Arkham Knight
Shadows of Mordor
and Division

Those are at the moment my top 4 games coming up

Batman and Mordor wont drop until Oct, then I give it a few months because they always are broken for PC for awhile.
Division doesn't come out until 2015
Watch Dogs is the only one coming out soon but I can wait to see reviews if its worth it.

I can't think of any major games on the horizon but something usually comes out. This will probably be my last major build so I want it to last as long as possible. Im hoping for 2years high end gaming then 5 years mid range then crap and gen use after that.

The PC I have now is almost 5 yrs old and is able to run current games @ high specs around 30-45fps no prob. I figure if I bump up the specs I should get almost twice that from birth to death.


I have never overclocked, but If it is viable w/out losing life of the parts I am all for it. I may water cool just for noise sake I have not decided yet. Im also kicking around crazy case ideas. I saw one that was all case free I like the thought of that.

 

[TeknoBug]

Most people don't need the extra instructions the non-K CPU's have, the extra instructions matters more if you use virtual machines or do video or CAD productions. If all you do is game, surf the net and convert the occasional recorded gaming videos then get the 4770K that way you can OC it down the road and it'll still serve you for at least 4 some odd years.

Overclocking is a real breeze with Intel CPU's.

 

[TreVader]

Unless you're overclocking, there is no reason to go Z87 and K series. Get the 4771 and a nice B85 board and save some $100.



Overclocking a 4770K is a waste of time for the most part anyway. It's already plenty fast enough. At least with the 4771 you're not paying extra for fewer features. If you want to overlcock seriously go socket 2011.