Which is the best 19" Monitor?

[zsir]

Anyone here from San Diego ? I can't find anyone locally that sells the Samsung 900NF....

Please post if you know of a dealer in SD that carries them...

 

[LXi]

The Samsung Monitor site seem to be more accurate according to the owners. And as you can see the review said they even ran 1600x1200@93Hz. The 5BNCs are included, USB hub is optional.

This is a comparison pfd, Iiyama wasnt there though.

 

[Radboy]

Those are 17-inch monitors. I think ur pimping 17-inch specs for a 19-inch monitor. Not positive, but it seems that way. If this is the case, it's a whole new ballgame.

The guy here asked about 19-inch monitors, right?

The url to the spec sheet I link is a Samsung site:

http://samsungelectronics.com/products/monitor/pdf/SyncMaster_900nf.pdf

 

[LXi]

Hahaha.... why dont you scroll down a few pages.

 

[Radboy]

Yes, look at the specs listed on the review you linked a few posts up. I think u made a bad boo-boo.

The review u linked has the specs:

1600x1200 max
1280x1024 recommended

Which is prolly why the monitor costs $150 less.

 

[LXi]

Ok I have to admit, the info Samsung is provided is very confusing. But there is only one 900NF model, and they're capable of running at the specs I described(maybe Samsung just didnt reach its full potential).

 

[Radboy]

I'm confused. Seems to be two diff sets of specs for seemingly same monitor. Can u tell me why the apparent disparity?

How do u explainthe specs in the review u linked?

 

[LXi]

Like I said, the Samsung Electronics site is probably not up to date with the specs. A while ago we had a huge 130 post thread about whether to choose KDS AV-195TF or the 900NF. Finally someone from Samsung came in and told us the specs are improved because they didnt reach its full potential when they first released it.

The review I linked, I think they just copied it from Samsung's site or the box.

 

[Radboy]

'probably' is not what I'd wanna hear if i was gonna part with $500 of my hard-earned money.

 

[LXi]

You're gonna have to ask an owner about this. You'll need an incredably good video card to reach such resolutions anyway. But are you suggesting that the SamsungMonitor site is lying?

 

[Radboy]

Don't know what to think. There's obviously some prob, cuz they have two diff sets of specs for seemingly same monitor. The better specs are similar to the Iiyama Pro 450, but the inferior ones are much lower. Given the $150 price diff, I'd want to know *for sure* what's up b4 parting w/ my heard-earned cash.

I would not buy until I knew for sure.

 

[LXi]

DP

 

[LXi]

There are more than just 2 sets of specs, I have seen the site update the specs. I tried to look for that 130 post thread, but its gone, its from 3 months ago anyway.

Can you run your Iiyama at higher than 1600x1200@85Hz anyway?

 

[VladTrishkin]

I say there are only 2 names in this market : SONY and NEC... I have seen hundreds of Samsungs, KDS's, Cornerstones, etc... Nothing comes close to the G500 (sony) and NEC AV95+... If you want true-flat tubes and sharp colors, go for NEC or Sony.

 

[Radboy]

Higher than? Never tried, but I wouldn't do that. That would shorten it's life, & I paid too much to do that.

Prefer to run 1280x1024 at 100Hz. Well with-in the monitors capablity.

Have read several posts that suggest running a monitor at it max shortens its life expectancy.

1280x1024 offers 160Hz refresh.

I use a Radeon DDR 32MB w/ 5BNC cable. Yummy.

The Samsung still sounds interesting. The buyer simply needs to be sure that he's getting what he *thinks* he's getting.

Take the Iiyama Pro 450, for example. Somebody might see an attractive price for the "Iiyama 450" & think they're getting a Pro, but they're not. Iiyama has both a Pro 450 + non Pro. Little word 'Pro' makes big diff. Non-Pro is an entirely diff tube. It's not a Diamondtron, it doesn't have near the specs, doesn't have BNC connectors. It's not even flat. Or somebody might see the 'Iiyama 450' and see that it's "not that flat" (like another guy in a similar thread) and think the Pro 450 is a piece of crap, whe he wasn't even looking at a pro model.

What I'm saying is that we need to know (for sure) wtf we're getting for our (hard-earned) money.

 

[LXi]

I fully understand what you're saying, Iiyama's Pro and non-Pro confused a lot of people. Im sure that wont happen to Samsung because of the distinctive remark of "NF"(natural flat), "DF"(dynaflat), "IFT"(not sure). Those are the three models with flat tubes, only the NF comes in as DiamondTron NF, the other two uses Samsung's DynaFlat tubes(shadow mask).

Since you dont care about res above 1600x1200, why are you bad rapping the Samsung then? Like the review said you can do 90Hz+ on 1600x1200, Im definitely sure you can do 100Hz+ on 1280x1024.

 

[Radboy]

I'm not bad-rapping the Samsung. I said it was still an interesting prospect.

But surely you agree the two diff sets of specs we've looked at would indicate a large diff in quality.

If u buy a monitor thinking you're getting these specs:

Max res 2048x1536
Recommended res 1600x1200@85Hz

But u really get a monitor with these specs:

Max 1600x1200
Recommended: 1280x1024

.. you just got ripped off.

 

[LXi]

Here is the 3rd set of specs

Max - 1920 x 1440 @ 73Hz
Optimal - 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz

This is what Samsungmonitor.com had before they updated it to 2048x1536@69Hz.


Here is the 4th set of the specs, taken from the .pfd you provided above

Max - 1600x1200 @ 87Hz
Optimal 1280x1024 @ 85Hz


I think this variety of specs was caused by Samsung not knowing the monitor's full potential, when they released it they thought they can only do 1600x1200, later they discoverd that it can actually do 1800x1440, then 1920x1440, and now 2048x1536. I dont think there is any suspecion that this monitor is capable of reaching what samsungmonitor.com claimed.

 

[Radboy]

Anybody here actually *have* this monitor?

If so, they could give us real-world user specs (hence my point about posting info you have first-hand experience with).

I looked at Pricewatch & Shopper.com, and am ever more confused than I was b4.

 

[LXi]

I will start a thread on this. I know many here own the 900NF.

 

[ArMs]

I like the NEC FP950 and the ViewSonic PF790.

 

[Radboy]

Good idea.

 

[The Wildcard]

My Sony G400 is pretty nice too.

 

[LXi]

Wildcard:

Can you still track down the 130 post thread we did a few months ago?

 

[prontospyder]

ndee:

I think Outpost.com ships internationally.