Which is preferable? - AMD A64 X2 6000+ or 4850e

mitchafi

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I haven't kept up with the recent chips, revisions and all that, but I know that I want to go AMD to save money. I see that the 4850e has a lower clock speed but also runs a lot cooler.

All I want to do is play 1080p x264. I doubt I will overclock either. What generation of chips is the 4850e from, and would my possible upgrade path be the same with either chip? It seems that either chip would work in the motherboards I am looking at.

TIA,
Mitch
 

RaptureMe

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These will do just fine 4850e,5050e but if you want perfect playback for only $5.00 more you should really get this 7750 Black Edition.
It is the newest version of the dual core Phenom II's and has sse 4 which you are going to need sooner then later!!
 

mitchafi

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Is there any reason there are no reviews on newegg for the 7750? Besides being "unlocked" and a slightly higher clock speed, what does it offer? I don't plan to overclock anyways.
 

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The 7750 is brand new so most likely people have ordered but have not recieved them yet. Looking at some reviews of the 7750, it seems it is a power hog. I would go with the 5050e myself because of the lower power.
 

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Id get the latter i.e the 4850e or the 5050e. If its possible to get a phenom, maybe even the Phenom X4 9350.
 

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Yeah there are no reviews because its brand new and just came out.
I would stay with these for sure x2 5050e,x2 7750BE,or x4 9350e.
The reason I would go with the 7750 over the others is its a newer core design and has sse4 plus 3 levels of cach vs the others only having 2 levels..
The X4 9350e is a quad core but its only 65w and also has sse4 and 3 levels of cach but costs x3 the price of the others..
 

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Originally posted by: mitchafi
I haven't kept up with the recent chips, revisions and all that, but I know that I want to go AMD to save money. I see that the 4850e has a lower clock speed but also runs a lot cooler.

All I want to do is play 1080p x264. I doubt I will overclock either. What generation of chips is the 4850e from, and would my possible upgrade path be the same with either chip? It seems that either chip would work in the motherboards I am looking at.

TIA,
Mitch

A 780g* and an AMD Sempron LE-1300 Sparta 2.3GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor

And software/player to fully utilize the chipset hardware acceleration of h.284.

IIRC Tom's went as low as a 1.8GHz Sempy with PowerDVD and the 780g with BluRay playback.



*An AMD 790gx chipset with sb750 purportedly consumes less wattage - check for AM3 compatibility for your best upgrade path (and OC).

 

mitchafi

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So I may have changed my mind. I got in on the BFG upgrade offer and traded in my AGP 6800 OC for a 9600GT. If I want to do some light gaming, what processor would I need to avoid a bottleneck?
 

Martimus

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Originally posted by: mitchafi
So I may have changed my mind. I got in on the BFG upgrade offer and traded in my AGP 6800 OC for a 9600GT. If I want to do some light gaming, what processor would I need to avoid a bottleneck?

The 6000+ is definitely the faster chip. The nice thing about the 4850e is that it runs much cooler, so it would be quieter to cool. I would make you choice based on whether speed or noise is more important to you, and only factor noise in if you are going to buy a seperate heatsink.
 

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Originally posted by: RaptureMe
These will do just fine 4850e,5050e but if you want perfect playback for only $5.00 more you should really get this 7750 Black Edition.
It is the newest version of the dual core Phenom II's and has sse 4 which you are going to need sooner then later!!

Um...no.

Xbitlabs "Phenom X2" 7750 review

Basically it's nothing more than a dual-core Phenom (K10 architecture). Probably created from their waste chips that had 2 cores fail during production/testing. Power-hungry, hot, a little better clock-for-clock than the "normal" X2 series but not what I'd want in my box.

Best option is X2 4850e or 5050e as these have solid clockspeed and low power consumption for cool & quiet performance. I have one (4850e) in an HTPC build that I literally cannot hear while watching blu-ray movies in the living room.
 

mitchafi

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Looking at Anandtech's recent guide they are recommending a phenom 8650 (3 cores). At only $100 I'm wondering if it isn't worth jumping up to that. While running cool/quiet is important, it is not so important that I want to sacrifice possible gaming/general performance to run a little cooler. Does this information about the 7750 also apply to the 8650 (Toliman)? I plan to run Vista 64-bit.
 

WT

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I went with a 5050e for my build, primarily to lower my power consumption. My HTPC is the only PC that is on 24/7, so it would affect the electric bill the most if I went with a Phenom with its much higher 95nm architecture. The 780G board is a great match for the chip as well, so for a change I actually went with a 'green' setup instead of my usual quad/GTX2xx build recommendation.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: WT
I went with a 5050e for my build, primarily to lower my power consumption. My HTPC is the only PC that is on 24/7, so it would affect the electric bill the most if I went with a Phenom with its much higher 95nm architecture. The 780G board is a great match for the chip as well, so for a change I actually went with a 'green' setup instead of my usual quad/GTX2xx build recommendation.

I think you mean 65 mm... or 95w tdp?
 

mitchafi

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I don't plan to have the computer on at all times and it seems as if, since I do want to do some light gaming and multi-tasking, it might be worthwhile to have the more powerful processor. Exactly how significant of an increase in power consumption is there from a 45w 5050e to a 95w tri-core?

I am also hoping to future-proof to some extent by going with the X3 8650. If I understand correctly, my Asus 780G mATX board can theoretically support AM3 chips with a bios update, and in that case I'll have both a faster, newer, chip and a motherboard that will allow me to easily swap out the chip for a newer AM3 when necessary. Though its going to be mostly an HTPC PC, I'm using the stock heatsink, so heat and cooling isn't my number one concern (though it still is a concern).

P.S. can someone explain what TDP means?
 

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Originally posted by: mitchafi
Looking at Anandtech's recent guide they are recommending a phenom 8650 (3 cores). At only $100 I'm wondering if it isn't worth jumping up to that. While running cool/quiet is important, it is not so important that I want to sacrifice possible gaming/general performance to run a little cooler. Does this information about the 7750 also apply to the 8650 (Toliman)? I plan to run Vista 64-bit.

Running an X3 8650 on a 780G mobo and have nothing but good things to say about the rig. I highly recommend getting an ATI card for maximum compatibility. Using the HD3870 myself.