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Which is more Evil: Wal-Mart of Microsoft?

imported_Sasha

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Recently, there was a news bit on CNN's website about Wal-Mart trying to lobby the appropriate people to increase OTR (over the road) drver driving allowances from whatever it is now (eight or ten hours I think) to being able to drive tractor trailers for up to 16-hours per day.

I have a friend that use to OTR and got out of the profession. Part of it was that everyone (drivers) were cooking their books on their driving log to make up for lost time in bad traffic. So, even though they recorded X hours of daily driving time they were in fact driving X+Y and Y was several more hours that the X-allowed daily driving time.

In fact, this hit home when he was working a lot of at one point entered a twilight-zone of state and hit a guard-rail and that made him re-think his willingness to continue the profession on what he was making as a result. Good for him, good for us (so we don't die at the hands of him sleeping at the wheel), but not necessarily good for his employer at the time.

Now, with Wal-Mart wanting to push the daily allowance up to 16-hours/day I have to stop and wonder exactly what WM is willing to take on in terms of liability. I cannot imagine 16-hour/days over time cannot cause some deaths on the highway that are seen, statstically, as an increase in incidents because of this. And all for the sake of WM pricing.

Between this and some of the early business practices at Microsoft I have to re-think which one I considered more evil than the other, and with this bit of news I think Wal-Mart just displaced Microsoft as the most evil company on the planet. Furthermore, I consider all of their stockholders equally evil and must now review all my 401K funds to insure that none of them take part in this Evil-doing for which I cannot possably be benefiting from.

So, which do you think is more evil?
 
Wal-Mart, for sure. As much as I hate the way Microsoft does things, they are good to their employees and generous to causes around the world. Wal-Mart is so profit driven that they wouldn't know ethics if it kicked them in the ass.

 
Neither.

What is evil are those people who mindlessly target whatever company or person who is on top or the most popular.
 
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
neither i hate these threads

No you don't. If you hated them you wouldn't consume your precious time replying to them: post-whore!

no, if i had posted 'who cares' then you could have replied with that shitt but big corporation != evil. tell me these evil microsoft schemes you speak of
 
Originally posted by: toekramp
neither i hate these threads


how much has microsoft donated over the last few years?

A ton! And both companies are obviously doing something right. I like both companies.
 
Well...

I have Microsoft products on pretty much every desktop, server, handheld, and point of sale equipment I manage, but I purposely drive out of my NOT to shop at Walmart.

 
Well let's see... one company unscrupulously crushes competition while offering good jobs to people and with a super rich guy who donates tons to charity all while continuously researching and expanding technology; the other unscrupulously crushes competition, hires illegal immigrants, overworks and underpays its people, and offers little advancement beyond showing more ways for big corporations to screw small businesses.

Yeah, tough call.
 
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
neither i hate these threads
No you don't. If you hated them you wouldn't consume your precious time replying to them: post-whore!
no, if i had posted 'who cares' then you could have replied with that shitt but big corporation != evil. tell me these evil microsoft schemes you speak of
Hmm, still hating enough to enjoy posting here. LOL. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: MogulMonster
Wal-Mart, for sure. As much as I hate the way Microsoft does things, they are good to their employees and generous to causes around the world. Wal-Mart is so profit driven that they wouldn't know ethics if it kicked them in the ass.

QFT

100% more poll needed...stat!
 
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
neither i hate these threads
No you don't. If you hated them you wouldn't consume your precious time replying to them: post-whore!
no, if i had posted 'who cares' then you could have replied with that shitt but big corporation != evil. tell me these evil microsoft schemes you speak of
Hmm, still hating enough to enjoy posting here. LOL. 🙂

i think you misunderstood my response; by 'these threads' i mean threads that aimlessly speak of the evil corporations. just because the company is huge doesn't make them a bad thing. walmart and microsoft both provide services that I truely find valuable
 
I would vote but it seems there is still no poll. And so I will go wax my pole instead. Until there is a poll. Or something.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Neither.

What is evil are those people who mindlessly target whatever company or person who is on top or the most popular.
So was targeting Enron wrong?
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Amused
Neither.

What is evil are those people who mindlessly target whatever company or person who is on top or the most popular.
So was targeting Enron wrong?

i think the keyphrase in his post was 'mindlessly target'
 
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: toekramp
neither i hate these threads
No you don't. If you hated them you wouldn't consume your precious time replying to them: post-whore!
no, if i had posted 'who cares' then you could have replied with that shitt but big corporation != evil. tell me these evil microsoft schemes you speak of
Hmm, still hating enough to enjoy posting here. LOL. 🙂

i think you misunderstood my response; by 'these threads' i mean threads that aimlessly speak of the evil corporations. just because the company is huge doesn't make them a bad thing. walmart and microsoft both provide services that I truely find valuable
Well, in that case you moved on false grounds! I did not post them asking if they were more evil than another company because they were big, but rather because they are willing to jeopardize motorists to a higher-level by lobbying for 16-hour driving days when its already been shown what they currently have is barely safe and already abused.

Had CNN posted about a tiny company I would have posted about their evilness, too. But, since a lot of people consider microsoft the King of Evil, I used them as a rule to guage others by. I personally like Microsoft for a lot of things, including XP Professional, their VC9 video codec donation, and their efforts into IPTV and WM9 HD DVDs.

Still, I had to provide a rule to guage the company I was complaining about for the parameter for which the post is based upon. So far it looks like WM is the new King of Evil. 😀
 
Originally posted by: AMDZen
I would vote but it seems there is still no poll. And so I will go wax my pole instead. Until there is a poll. Or something.

I really do not know how to post a poll on Anandtech. If someone could assist, please do. Moderator ...
 
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