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Which is better?

i think the 3400 is only the old 130nm newcassle core. i would go for the 3500 vecause you can have the choice of venice, winchester, and san diego cores, which can overclock more, and have less heat.
 
another question...for my new pc, i'm deciding on the processor...what is the performance difference between a 3000+, 3200+, 3400+ and 3500+

which one is the best bang for the buck?
 
3400 will beat 3500 in every benchmark. 3400 is the best bang for the buck of any highend chip (over $150)..It hangs with the 3800 is lots of tests.
 
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
really, so i should look for the 3400...what about a 3200, is there too much of a performance drop?
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Problem with 3400 is AGP video slot which is about to be extinct. So if you think you need another video card with this system then 3200 venice is a good deal because they can be put into PCIe boards.
 
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
so the socket 754 3400+ is better and cheaper than teh socket 939 3500+...but no upgrade possible. hmm, this is getting more complicated.
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Go with a 3000+, best bang for the buck and just overclock it to 4000+ speeds. I did not know a thing about overclocking 6 months ago, but after a few days of research on this site i bought my winnie 3000+ and a S939 AV8 mobo and had it OCing from 1.8Ghz to a stable 2.5Ghz 2 days after i received the equipment. The new Venice 3000+ cores seem to be even better then the Winchester 3000+ core i bought 6 months ago.
 
I bought an asus k8n socket 754 paired with a 3400+ and happy about it except the agp part 🙁. Upgrading to me means changing both cpu and mobo 🙂 but I have to stay on the system for a while because of my x800xt aiw or file for a bankruptcy.

If you're buying new video card and like overclocking go with 939.
 
Guys, I don't think this user will overclock their CPU. I'd go with the 3500 Venice, it has a revised memory controller, so it feels a bit tighter.
 
^^i dont mind overclocking...i just wanna know the risks...and i have a buddy that does this kinda stuff all the time, so he'd be able to help me...i just dont wanna do something risky and end up screwing up my processor.
 
you be fine. Its hard to really fry a CPU or memory or anything. Just stay under 10% VID. In fact, there's a really good guide stickied here by zebo, i recomend you read


(ag. Lost train of thought kids outside fighting eachother)
 
Risks of overclocking
this might happen if you increase the voltage alot and overclock the poop out of it with no heatsink or fan
crap the video doesnt work anymore, hold on i will try to find it
 
Originally posted by: richardrds
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
so the socket 754 3400+ is better and cheaper than teh socket 939 3500+...but no upgrade possible. hmm, this is getting more complicated.
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Go with a 3000+, best bang for the buck and just overclock it to 4000+ speeds. I did not know a thing about overclocking 6 months ago, but after a few days of research on this site i bought my winnie 3000+ and a S939 AV8 mobo and had it OCing from 1.8Ghz to a stable 2.5Ghz 2 days after i received the equipment. The new Venice 3000+ cores seem to be even better then the Winchester 3000+ core i bought 6 months ago.
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What he said 3000 is where it's at. Make into a 3800 for free.

There are risks, but they are minimal. The #1 risk is you are voiding your warranty...so maybe you run stock for awile, make sure everything is cool before you delve into overclocking?

Risks are low if you use default voltages. It's the same chip as 3800, 3500, 3200 but AMD simply "crippled" it by giving it a lower multiplier.

You can correct this factory mistake by increasing your motherboards HTT, so it's really the motherboard you're overclocking if you stop and think about it.🙂

Anyway what's your use here...what do you want for a high performance system? games?
 
Dig the new sig Zebo 😀 Our tax dollars at work? You lazy ass giverment employees 😛
 
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i want to use it for games mainly...also, does overclocking decrease the life span of the chip?
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As long as you don't use sick voltage you will upgrade well before it gives up the ghost most likely. If you hit the overclock on close to default vcore though, you are even better off.

 
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