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Which HSF would you take?

AWhackWhiteBoy

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the Cooler Master and thermalright offers are on par with each, go based on price or maybe size limitations. the coolmaster is huge...
 

Nebor

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The Thermalright is a better perfomer and can be much quieter than the zalman when fitted w/ the proper fan.
 

calam63

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The Ugly:

A whole kilogram?!? Does anyone even want to imagine what could happen if this thing broke loose? It would almost certainly take out that shpankity $500 Radeon X800 XT PE you just installed to go along with your new bad boy overclocked P4!

As if the weight isn't bad enough, the tall height of the heatsink acts as a cantilever to apply even greater torque to a vertically mounted mainboard. Tower cases are still favored by the power user market this heatsink addresses. Can you trust the HS mounting system over the long term? Can long-term stress on the motherboard cause a microscopic break in the mutili-layer PCB? Will the mounting points between the motherboard and case hold? These questions cannot be answered easily.

One thing is for sure: Remove the Hyper 6 before transporting the system to prevent damage to the mainboard and other components.

Cooler Master should consider a lighter version with thin high grade aluminum fins. It would probably provide 98-99% of the cooling power but drop the weight by at least 40%.
 

Cerb

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The SP-94 is no light-wieght, either, and the Zalmans are insane as well. I trust the K8 retension mechanism, though, maybe not the P4's :). Extra performance has its cost. I also want to see how well the XP-120 does.

...I think my next setup will be desktop just for ease of working on it.
 

calam63

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true but like 300gram more than most of the others - and it isn't short - its long - which like it says puts more torque on the board - seems like just a bad idea when you can have a much smaller hs
 

KDOG

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Man, you better put that thing in a desktop ATX board so it doesn't break off!!! I thought my Tt Volcano 11+ was bad!!!
 

Insane3D

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Yeah, this whole "bigger is better" thing is going to go to far and all of a sudden we are going to hear all these stories of the CPU socket coming right off the board. I will never understand people who are content to run these huge HSF's that are way over the weight specifications of the socket, and use a clip mechanism. It's one thing to use a clip on HSF when it's a normal size one that doesn't weigh a ton, but attaching some of these behemoth HSF's with a clip only only is just ASKING for trouble IMO.
 

Cerb

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Actually, there are already some of those stories. I think the BTX idea is a good one, but that they should have just had threaded mobo tray holes, rather than a metal piece on the other side of the mobo. That or attach the HSF mechanism on one of the normal mobo mounting holes.

I'm not at all saying they aren't getting a bit big, but Zalman and Thermalright have already shown that most of these retension clips, and motherboards themselves, are stringer than we think they are. Just don't drop-kick the case :).
 

AWhackWhiteBoy

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Originally posted by: calam63
The Ugly:

A whole kilogram?!? Does anyone even want to imagine what could happen if this thing broke loose? It would almost certainly take out that shpankity $500 Radeon X800 XT PE you just installed to go along with your new bad boy overclocked P4!

As if the weight isn't bad enough, the tall height of the heatsink acts as a cantilever to apply even greater torque to a vertically mounted mainboard. Tower cases are still favored by the power user market this heatsink addresses. Can you trust the HS mounting system over the long term? Can long-term stress on the motherboard cause a microscopic break in the mutili-layer PCB? Will the mounting points between the motherboard and case hold? These questions cannot be answered easily.

One thing is for sure: Remove the Hyper 6 before transporting the system to prevent damage to the mainboard and other components.

Cooler Master should consider a lighter version with thin high grade aluminum fins. It would probably provide 98-99% of the cooling power but drop the weight by at least 40%.


i have almost 800grams mounted to the SOCKET, and i move my computer around a lot back and forth from school. ths cool master mounts to the motherboard itself, its perfectly safe.
 

RaNDoMMAI

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Nebor
The Thermalright is a better perfomer and can be much quieter than the zalman when fitted w/ the proper fan.

Plus, alot of people have reported that the recent zalmans have been clicking alot.

I would get the coolmaster hyper 6 because it is just way too tall, can you just imagine the stress it must do to your mobo over time?

I think that SPCR review also says something like that

Thermalright sp-94>zalman7000ALCU>zalman7000>coolmaster to me

EDIT: for really bad spelling


~RaNDoM
 

JBT

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I would go for the 94-SP I thought I have seen those things for liek 19.99 on sale at SVC before.

I have a SLK900a and it is awsome. I can rig itto fit a 120 mm fan easily though I don't, it dosen't really fit my case haha. but my 92mm Panaflo fots perfectly and is pretty quiet.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: RaNDoMMAI
Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Nebor
The Thermalright is a better perfomer and can be much quieter than the zalman when fitted w/ the proper fan.

Plus, alot of people have reported that the recent zalmans have been clicking alot.

I would get the coolmaster hyper 6 because it is just way too tall, can you just imagine the stress it must do to your mobo over time?

I think that SPCR review also says something like that

Thermalright sp-94>zalman7000ALCU>zalman7000>coolmaster to me

EDIT: for really bad spelling


~RaNDoM

Most people here use Antec case fans, they aren't going to notice the Zalman's clicking.
 

RussianSensation

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For ultimate performance, versatility/coolness (can change to any colour fan, led, speed and airflow you desire, etc.), fairly compact size and unbeatable performance I'd take the Thermalright.

7000A-ALCU - best price/performance ratio (unless you find the others on sale), as it can be found for ~$30 Also this will be the easiest to clean because you can just use a Q-tip to clean the dirt out when it accumulates and won't have to dismount it in travel.

CoolerMaster for its uniqueness and because not a lot of people have them. But it's size and price are not very favourable to me.
 

JBT

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Originally posted by: JBT
I would go for the 94-SP I thought I have seen those things for liek 19.99 on sale at SVC before.

I have a SLK900a and it is awsome. I can rig itto fit a 120 mm fan easily though I don't, it dosen't really fit my case haha. but my 92mm Panaflo fots perfectly and is pretty quiet.

Wups sorry just checked I was talking about the 947U which fits AMD's and P4's SLK947U for 19.99 Should be a very good cooler for an awsome price and bolts on for security.
 

MichaelZ

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none of them, i want the XP120 :D

but if i had to pick something to replace my zalman, i would take a coolermaster hyper6.