Which HD is best for reliability?

btcomm1

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Say in the 500 GB range. I have looked at reviews and it seems like no matter what manufacturer you chose you might get a dead drive, or one that fails soon after purchase. I know that there is always a possibility of getting a dead drive but it seems like there a percentage that is too high on most drives. The only one I found that doesn't have a negative rating on newegg.com looks like it's pretty new and only has 2 reviews so far, also more expensive then other drives.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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There are none. All drives fail, all have warranties. Pick a drive that suits your budget, and has a good warranty. Back up your data, and you will be fine. Do some good reviews at places like storagereview.com, not newegg. People bitch when something is broken, not when it works right. So guess who is leaving reviews at newegg?
 

mithrandir2001

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Instead of picking a brand look for drives considered to be "enterprise-class". For example I'd go for the Western Digital WD5000YS instead of the WD5000KS.
 

Atheus

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Newegg reviews are totally useless.

People bitch when something is broken, not when it works right. So guess who is leaving reviews at newegg?

Exactly. Plus most of those people don't know what they're talking about and probably broke the hardware themselves.

I'd go for Seagate with the 5 year warranty but that's just me. Get two and RAID-1 them if you want real reliability.

 
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DUDE don't go by the rating on NEWEGG
i mean NEWEGG rocks because its the best on what it does but the raring there suck
i mean there are people over there who don't know anything
STICK to an HDD that fits your budget and go with name brands like WD or Seagate

 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Instead of picking a brand look for drives considered to be "enterprise-class". For example I'd go for the Western Digital WD5000YS instead of the WD5000KS.

Not all drives are recommended for desktop use. Western Digital RE2 hard drives are not due to TLER. Time-limited error recovery reduces the amount of time the hard drive will attempt to correct an error--this is good for RAID configurations, as it reduces the chance that the drive will be dropped out of the array, but it can be bad for normal desktop configurations.
 

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All have extremely low failure rates.
 

bob4432

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put all of the ones with a 5yr warranty in a hat and pick one ;) that is about as good of answer as you will get . i do think the 7200.10 with perp recording do offer a bit more in the str dept, but nothing worth writing home about,

personally i just bought a maxtor maxline pro 500 500GB and it is surprsingly warm for a 7.2k sata drive, feels more like an older 15k hdd, but all of my hdds are actively cooled so that really doesn't matter in my case, but something to think about. runs decent and hasn't died yet....
 

mithrandir2001

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Instead of picking a brand look for drives considered to be "enterprise-class". For example I'd go for the Western Digital WD5000YS instead of the WD5000KS.

Not all drives are recommended for desktop use. Western Digital RE2 hard drives are not due to TLER. Time-limited error recovery reduces the amount of time the hard drive will attempt to correct an error--this is good for RAID configurations, as it reduces the chance that the drive will be dropped out of the array, but it can be bad for normal desktop configurations.

You can turn the TLER option off and, if memory serves correctly, the RE2 is shipped with TLER turned off.
 

russell2002

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In 12 years of using HDD's in various computers I had my first failure a few months back, but it was two 160GB WD drives which failed within days of each other.
 

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I would get a drive with a 5yr warranty also. I know it's not the size you're looking for, but the WD Raptors have excellent (enterprise class) reliability. Perhaps 2 x 150 GB Raptor's would serve your purpose.
 

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I always use Seagates in my builds at work and for friends. I personally have used about 50 Seagate's in the last year in various builds, and haven't had a single one die, start failing smart tests or anything.

Almost all of them have been 7200.10 Barracudas. However a recently some have been Barracuda ES's at work due to the nature of the build. If you are concerned with infant mortality in hard drives, get a Barracuda ES or the WD Enterprise ones. They undergo more factory testing, and tend to not die early so to speak, due to the extra factory tests.

Other than that, keep them cool and avoid moving them alot during operation and they should last a long time.
 

bob4432

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imho the only true enterprise drives are scsi/sas drives, end of story, but unfortunately they are cuurently limited to 300GB (at least for 15K) and cost a fortune. i do think that current 7.2k hdds are excellent drives and you do get a hell of a bang for buck.

i see it as either regular class - pata/sata or enterprise - scsi/sas and even the raptor goes in the regular class (there is not enough history to see if they truely are a enterprise drive, as with any pata/sata "enterprise drive" or just marketing where scsi has been tested for years)
 

mithrandir2001

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Originally posted by: bob4432
... even the raptor goes in the regular class (there is not enough history to see if they truely are a enterprise drive, as with any pata/sata "enterprise drive" or just marketing where scsi has been tested for years)

While you always have to be critical of what most marketing depts say I consider the Raptor to be enterprise-class. There's a reason why a 150GB Raptor costs almost $200 while a "regular" 250GB drive goes for well under $100. The Raptor's chassis is based off of WD's enterprise SCSI line and it is more costly to produce.

The proof is in the pudding they say and the Raptor's reliability ratings in the storagereview database are very, very good; taking WD's 5-year warranty into consideration (walking the walk) I would not classify the Raptor as a "mere" desktop drive.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Originally posted by: bob4432
... even the raptor goes in the regular class (there is not enough history to see if they truely are a enterprise drive, as with any pata/sata "enterprise drive" or just marketing where scsi has been tested for years)

While you always have to be critical of what most marketing depts say I consider the Raptor to be enterprise-class. There's a reason why a 150GB Raptor costs almost $200 while a "regular" 250GB drive goes for well under $100. The Raptor's chassis is based off of WD's enterprise SCSI line and it is more costly to produce.

The proof is in the pudding they say and the Raptor's reliability ratings in the storagereview database are very, very good; taking WD's 5-year warranty into consideration (walking the walk) I would not classify the Raptor as a "mere" desktop drive.

how long have the raptors been around? regardless of what any forum says the amount of data is limited. imo it was wds way to try to get back into the server market that failed, so they spilled it over and over-marketed it to the gamers and by modifying the firmware they made a good desktop drive. also, when was the last time wd made a scsi hdd? defiantlely not on the same page as fujitsu or seagate in that dept...

the reason the it runs $200 is because it has no competition - sata, good specs and 10K, same reason the 15k.5 seagate 300GB cost so much - no other 300GB 15k hdds...
 

btcomm1

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Hmm, it may be that most reviewers at newegg don't know what they are talking about but I've read multiple reviews stating that the seagates are pretty loud compared to other drives, I guess it could be the drives they have are bad but are seagates known to be louder then other brands? I've thought about buying the Western Digital RE2 WD5000YS. I do notice though on the reviews on newegg that it seems to be about the same ratings for all drives. Some have a higher ercentage of 5 eggs, but you always get reviews from people that receive bad drives and say I'm going to go with seagate in the future. Then you read seagate reviews and you get people saying I'm going to go back to western digital. So all in all it seems none of the manufacturers stand out as being the best in reliability.
 

bX510

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I like seagates because of the 5 year warranty. Their harddrives are really good, also seagates hold the title to largest hd.
 

Zepper

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I just got an Hitachi 7K160 that was DOA. But the 7K80 that I got earlier is excellent - beats my 10k SCSI drives handily. Not a hiccup out of it, but I haven't had it that long. Storagereview.com has reliability charts for models that have been around long enough to tell.

.bh.