which hd-dvd player to get for my 720p display?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Just get an A35 AND A3. A player (A35) that has bitstream capabilities in the living room and a cheap HD-DVD (upscaling DVD) player (A3) for the bedroom. Hey, that's what I did. 🙂

i'd like to get an A35 but they're hard to come by. does it have multi-channel analog outs?

also, an aside question rather than creating another thread.

DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD, etc. are those only available on HD DVD and BD?

are those ^ formats the only ones that support 7.1 or does regular DD and DTS also do 7.1 (without that prologic business)?

DD and DTS do not support 7.1.


As far as I know, DD+, etc. can only be had on HD DVD and BD.

hmm... so in other words, i bought an outdated receiver, unless i buy a player that can decode those formats and pass it to the receiver via analog.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The A35 would give you one advantage the others wouldn't - bitstream for TrueHD and DTS-HD Master through your Onkyo. Whether or not that feature justifies the price premium is up to you.

what's teh diff between the a3 and a30?

1080p

hmm.. that might be worth the extra $20-30 since i plan on getting a 1080p display down the road.
will it upconvert regular dvd's to 1080p as well?

a 1080p display would de-interlace the 1080i signal to give the exact same picture. There would be no difference in quality. In your situation, get the a3 for now.

but i'm planning on getting a 1080p display in the very near future. they may not make a30/a35's if i wait any longer.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The A35 would give you one advantage the others wouldn't - bitstream for TrueHD and DTS-HD Master through your Onkyo. Whether or not that feature justifies the price premium is up to you.

what's teh diff between the a3 and a30?

1080p

hmm.. that might be worth the extra $20-30 since i plan on getting a 1080p display down the road.
will it upconvert regular dvd's to 1080p as well?

a 1080p display would de-interlace the 1080i signal to give the exact same picture. There would be no difference in quality. In your situation, get the a3 for now.

but i'm planning on getting a 1080p display in the very near future. they may not make a30/a35's if i wait any longer.

It should not matter. You still end up with the same picture. Basically, 1080i as encoded by HD-DVD includes all the information necessary to display a 1080p picture, so long as your TV properly de-interlaces it.

Any new 1080p TV should de-interlace w/o a problem. You would have to find out how your current 720p TV deinterlaces. In theory, it should create the 1080p source and then down-convert to 720p.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The A35 would give you one advantage the others wouldn't - bitstream for TrueHD and DTS-HD Master through your Onkyo. Whether or not that feature justifies the price premium is up to you.

what's teh diff between the a3 and a30?

1080p

hmm.. that might be worth the extra $20-30 since i plan on getting a 1080p display down the road.
will it upconvert regular dvd's to 1080p as well?

a 1080p display would de-interlace the 1080i signal to give the exact same picture. There would be no difference in quality. In your situation, get the a3 for now.

but i'm planning on getting a 1080p display in the very near future. they may not make a30/a35's if i wait any longer.

Considering the small price difference you should go with the A30 over the A3 ... it has the same improved upscaling ability as the A35 & as you know supports 1080p.

Yes the A35 is better, but at the moment its selling for close to twice as much as the A30 which just isn't worth it.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Captante
Considering the small price difference you should go with the A30 over the A3 ... it has the same improved upscaling ability as the A35 & as you know supports 1080p.

Yes the A35 is better, but at the moment its selling for close to twice as much as the A30 which just isn't worth it.

I pretty sure the only difference is that the A3 does not support 1080p/24 which is also not supported by many displays and certainly not the OP's 720p display. Other than that, the picture displayed on a 1080p panel connected to either the A3 or A30 will be exactly the same. I don't see any reason for the OP to spend more for an a30. Maybe there are some other reasons but 1080p is not one of them.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Captante
Considering the small price difference you should go with the A30 over the A3 ... it has the same improved upscaling ability as the A35 & as you know supports 1080p.

Yes the A35 is better, but at the moment its selling for close to twice as much as the A30 which just isn't worth it.

I pretty sure the only difference is that the A3 does not support 1080p/24 which is also not supported by many displays and certainly not the OP's 720p display. Other than that, the picture displayed on a 1080p panel connected to either the A3 or A30 will be exactly the same. I don't see any reason for the OP to spend more for an a30. Maybe there are some other reasons but 1080p is not one of them.

When the op upgrades to a 1080p display, the ability to output video at his displays native resolution & thus avoid any upscaling at all should provide some IQ improvement plus you are correct that the A30 supports 1080p/24.

In addition the A30 offers better IQ in playback/upconverting of SD-DVD's due to the fact it shares the A35's Anchor Bay dedicated upscaling processer which the A3 does not include.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Captante
Considering the small price difference you should go with the A30 over the A3 ... it has the same improved upscaling ability as the A35 & as you know supports 1080p.

Yes the A35 is better, but at the moment its selling for close to twice as much as the A30 which just isn't worth it.

I pretty sure the only difference is that the A3 does not support 1080p/24 which is also not supported by many displays and certainly not the OP's 720p display. Other than that, the picture displayed on a 1080p panel connected to either the A3 or A30 will be exactly the same. I don't see any reason for the OP to spend more for an a30. Maybe there are some other reasons but 1080p is not one of them.

When the op upgrades to a 1080p display, the ability to output video at his displays native resolution & thus avoid any upscaling at all should provide some IQ improvement plus you are correct that the A30 supports 1080p/24.

In addition the A30 offers better IQ in playback/upconverting of SD-DVD's due to the fact it shares the A35's Anchor Bay dedicated upscaling processer which the A3 does not include.

Point taken w/ respect to the improved scaler.

However, deinterlacing a 1080i/60 into a 1080p picture does not require upscaling. It only requires de-interlacing which is why the picture will look exactly the same. You will not see any picture quality improvement between the A3 and the A30 when displaying an HD-DVD movie on a 1080p panel.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Captante
Considering the small price difference you should go with the A30 over the A3 ... it has the same improved upscaling ability as the A35 & as you know supports 1080p.

Yes the A35 is better, but at the moment its selling for close to twice as much as the A30 which just isn't worth it.

I pretty sure the only difference is that the A3 does not support 1080p/24 which is also not supported by many displays and certainly not the OP's 720p display. Other than that, the picture displayed on a 1080p panel connected to either the A3 or A30 will be exactly the same. I don't see any reason for the OP to spend more for an a30. Maybe there are some other reasons but 1080p is not one of them.

When the op upgrades to a 1080p display, the ability to output video at his displays native resolution & thus avoid any upscaling at all should provide some IQ improvement plus you are correct that the A30 supports 1080p/24.

In addition the A30 offers better IQ in playback/upconverting of SD-DVD's due to the fact it shares the A35's Anchor Bay dedicated upscaling processer which the A3 does not include.

Point taken w/ respect to the improved scaler.

However, deinterlacing a 1080i/60 into a 1080p picture does not require upscaling. It only requires de-interlacing which is why the picture will look exactly the same. You will not see any picture quality improvement between the A3 and the A30 when displaying an HD-DVD movie on a 1080p panel.

I've read plenty of debate on the 1080p vs 1080i thing on AVS so I know what your talking about & never having made the comparision myself I'm unprepared to say more, however theres no debate that 1080p/24 will improve the quality of older movies & really the Anchor-Bay upscaler is worth the additional cost by itself IMO.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Captante

I've read plenty of debate on the 1080p vs 1080i thing on AVS so I know what your talking about & never having made the comparision myself I'm unprepared to say more, however theres no debate that 1080p/24 will improve the quality of older movies & really the Anchor-Bay upscaler is worth the additional cost by itself IMO.

For many TV's with 1080p/24 support, this makes no difference. You need to have a TV which not only supports 1080p/24 but also avoids the 3:2 pull-down. However, I'd expect true 1080p/24 support to increase dramatically over the next year or so.