which gunshot looks more realistic?

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Originally posted by: Ikonomi
The point about the second one looking like a rifle flash is valid. I guess I'd go with the first one (even though the second looks cooler), but much smaller. I've never seen a gun, even in darkness, create a muzzle flash that large.

Thanks, I'll make it much smaller.. Any one know apx. how much smaller? A percentage would be nice - or does anyone know where I can get clips of people firing real handguns? I found demos for assault rifles on google.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
The point about the second one looking like a rifle flash is valid. I guess I'd go with the first one (even though the second looks cooler), but much smaller. I've never seen a gun, even in darkness, create a muzzle flash that large.

Thanks, I'll make it much smaller.. Any one know apx. how much smaller? A percentage would be nice - or does anyone know where I can get clips of people firing real handguns? I found demos for assault rifles on google.
How about the size of your dick? Oh wait, it would be invisible then nm lol
 
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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
The point about the second one looking like a rifle flash is valid. I guess I'd go with the first one (even though the second looks cooler), but much smaller. I've never seen a gun, even in darkness, create a muzzle flash that large.

Thanks, I'll make it much smaller.. Any one know apx. how much smaller? A percentage would be nice - or does anyone know where I can get clips of people firing real handguns? I found demos for assault rifles on google.
How about the size of your dick? Oh wait, it would be invisible then nm lol

Powermac... Why do you continue to be so immature? I'm officially ignoring you from now on but, still.. I don't understand why you're focusing your anger on me... Hate my short films? That's fine.. Please don't view them - I wouldn't want to waste my bandwidth on you...
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
The point about the second one looking like a rifle flash is valid. I guess I'd go with the first one (even though the second looks cooler), but much smaller. I've never seen a gun, even in darkness, create a muzzle flash that large.

Thanks, I'll make it much smaller.. Any one know apx. how much smaller? A percentage would be nice - or does anyone know where I can get clips of people firing real handguns? I found demos for assault rifles on google.
How about the size of your dick? Oh wait, it would be invisible then nm lol

Powermac... Why do you continue to be so immature? I'm officially ignoring you from now on but, still.. I don't understand why you're focusing your anger on me... Hate my short films? That's fine.. Please don't view them - I wouldn't want to waste my bandwidth on you...
Please, contiue to single me out in all of your threads! It really bodes well for your maturity and the respect others have for you. I suggest you consider getting a life before you go out of your way to flame anonymous people on the internet.
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damn punks think they're tough.
 
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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
The point about the second one looking like a rifle flash is valid. I guess I'd go with the first one (even though the second looks cooler), but much smaller. I've never seen a gun, even in darkness, create a muzzle flash that large.

Thanks, I'll make it much smaller.. Any one know apx. how much smaller? A percentage would be nice - or does anyone know where I can get clips of people firing real handguns? I found demos for assault rifles on google.
How about the size of your dick? Oh wait, it would be invisible then nm lol

Powermac... Why do you continue to be so immature? I'm officially ignoring you from now on but, still.. I don't understand why you're focusing your anger on me... Hate my short films? That's fine.. Please don't view them - I wouldn't want to waste my bandwidth on you...
Please, contiue to single me out in all of your threads! It really bodes well for your maturity and the respect others have for you. I suggest you consider getting a life before you go out of your way to flame anonymous people on the internet.
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damn punks think they're tough.

Ummm.. You say that I have a small dick and I'M the one who's picking on YOU? Whatever.. Reading the FAQ on how to ignore a user.. Peace...
 

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Those are too bright and too long in time duration. It's a flash, not Godzilla's breath :) If you can work in a puff of smoke, you are business
 

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Blah, everyone more or less knows what a gunshot sounds like, so hide the gun. Don't even show it in the shot. Sorta like Jaws and how they hid Bruce half the time because he was broken.
 
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Originally posted by: virtuamike
Blah, everyone more or less knows what a gunshot sounds like, so hide the gun. Don't even show it in the shot. Sorta like Jaws and how they hid Bruce half the time because he was broken.

Well, the shot as storyboarded requires a flash - my storyboard artist will throw a fit if I change it up in the last minute...I'll figure something out and show you the end results...
 
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Thanks everyone, I'll be watching a lot of those videos and will take notes -I'm dedicated to getting this right ;)
 

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It's not all about the flash. Take a look at the shots in my RIAAlity movie that I posted a few weeks ago. ambient lighting effects are equally as important in creating believability.
 
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Originally posted by: MacBaine
It's not all about the flash. Take a look at the shots in my RIAAlity movie that I posted a few weeks ago. ambient lighting effects are equally as important in creating believability.

I'm going to try to filter up the surroundings a little to work with the flash
 

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Wow, muzzle blast is similar in size (a bit smaller) than what one would expect from a .50 DE...

A bit large, you should only expect about an 60mm flash with a 20 - 30 mm circumferance from a 9mm, unless it is a self-loader load with a higher grain...

Even then, that size flash is only expected in very low light conditions.

Also, if you are looking for enhanced realism, add in a casing, and a small bit of smoke from the ejection port...

Being that you are in NY, and I am somewhat familiar with the regulations in the area, you should be able to get a permit to use a blank/prop gun with 24 hour notice if you are in the theatrical business or are working on a valid production (the definition of valid is VERY lax). You do need to hold a business license for theatrical productions though.

Aside from that, you could invest in an AEG (Airsoft Electrig Gun) or GBB (Gas Blow-Back) to get the blowback effect, then blur in the shell casing... A decent One would set you back around a hundred or so; a very good one can range into the thousands...

Being in NY, have you thought of going to your local police station, speaking to the duty sgt, and explaining that you are with a small film company, are working on a production requiring a muzzle flash, and were wondering if it was possible for you to visit the range and observe some live firing for comparisons?

 

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They are both kind of rough. But I still think that it is manageable. The second shot definitely does not look like a handgun flash. And the first one is way too large, but if you can cut it down some, then I think it would look pretty good...I would say cut about 35-50% of it off. Good luck with your film.