Which game has better engine/graphics - Crysis 1 or Far Cry 3?

futurefields

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What do you guys think?

Crysis 1 (7 years old) vs Far Cry 3, which game has better graphics and a better engine? Which one performs better given the image quality?

Interested to hear your thoughts...
 

Stringjam

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Dunia (Ubisoft's FarCry engine) is based on CryEngine1, originally created by a Crytek employee. Obviously it's been modified heavily since that point.

As far as which game looks better, I guess that depends on what kind of art direction you're going for.

FarCry3 kind of looks homogenously green and perfect. It's pretty, in a kind of fantasy island kind of way. The weapons modeling looked really great!

Most of the character models, to me, anyway, looked pretty awful though...especially the islanders.

CryEngine2 still holds up extremely well. Crysis with some ToD tweaks some better textures still looks fantastic. This was the engine that introduced SSAO and I believe was the first game to use sub-surface scattering (one of the main reasons the vegetation and human skin looked so impressive).

Enough blabbing though, threads like this are best served with screenshots:

FarCry3:

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Crysis (with modded ToD)

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Zeze

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FarCry 3 is admittedly more cartoony.

Crysis is more realistic than FC3.
 

futurefields

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I cant get past how last-gen the character models in Far Cry 3 look... its pretty bad imo. I still think Crysis looks way better actually heh... runs better too.
 

Zeze

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Crysis is still the 2nd most demanding game, behind Crysis 3. FC3...not so much.

Is it?

Crysis 3 runs pretty damn smooth on my cheap i3-2120 + HD6870 (High and 1920x1080). The game is rather generic with un-interactive environment.

Crysis 1 is a full blown sand-box game with dynamic day cycle and breakable trees everywhere.
 

Nintendesert

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The FC3 engine is a stuttering mess. Crysis 1 is better.Heck, in many ways FarCry 2 had the better engine and looking game.
 

Red Storm

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Crysis.

To me it's still the king of graphics. Other games that limit how much you can see are "cheating" IMHO.
 

TechBoyJK

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The FC3 engine is a stuttering mess. Crysis 1 is better.Heck, in many ways FarCry 2 had the better engine and looking game.

My experience with Far Cry 3 was smooth. FC2 and FC3 used same engine btw. If anything, it's simply more efficient and advanced. (the studio may have not taken advantage of that though). I actually really like where UbiSoft took CryEngine after they forked it when they split with Crytek.

There's a really difference between the game, and the engine. There's all kinds of awesome effects, sub routines, etc. that are in CryEngine3 that even Crysis 3 didn't use. It's like having a palette of resources and the studio chooses what it needs in the game, and balances what they use according to the resources available on the host system. So it often depends on the studio. They could have just as easily made Far Cry 3 in CryEngine 3 and still used the same height map for the island, the same tree textures and objects, assets, etc.

Also, don't forget Crytek's CryEngine3 is often used for simulations, including military simulations and flight simulations. UbiSoft doesn't dabble in that, so their fork of CryEngine1 was pushed towards gameplay stuff. They haven't made the same graphical steps forward as Crytek did. Crytek has an interest in making things as real as possible. Ubisoft doesn't.

At the end of the day, if I owned a studio, was developing a game for Occulus Rift (where immersion is part of the game), I'd choose CryEngine3 because I think CE3 has more features that add to overall 'realistic' immersion. Everything from shadows to physics to how the screen blurs when you focus on objects, etc. is going to feel 'more real'. (noted in post above, someone mentiond far cry 3 looks great but is more cartoony).
 
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futurefields

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"The most gorgeous open world game ever"

"Game of the year material"

"Skyrim with guns"


And then I load it up on my PC that far exceeds the recommended specs in all categories and its a stuttery mess.

It's really damn frustrating.
 

TechBoyJK

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"The most gorgeous open world game ever"

"Game of the year material"

"Skyrim with guns"


And then I load it up on my PC that far exceeds the recommended specs in all categories and its a stuttery mess.

It's really damn frustrating.

Sounds like a problem with your computer, not the game.
 

futurefields

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what could the problem possibly be with my computer? its brand new and far exceeds the recommended specs.
 

Chaotic42

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The FC3 engine is a stuttering mess. Crysis 1 is better.Heck, in many ways FarCry 2 had the better engine and looking game.

Weird. Mine is as smooth as butter at 2560x1600 with all of the image settings maxed out. This is on an i7-3770k and a GTX 680.
 

TechBoyJK

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what could the problem possibly be with my computer? its brand new and far exceeds the recommended specs.

Considering most people don't have any problems you mentioned, what do you think it is?

"brand new and far exceeds the recommended specs" doesn't mean you don't have driver problems or anything like that. Did you try their forums? rolling back drivers? Updating drivers? do other games run fine? What kind of setup do you have?

When a AAA title gives you problems and everyone else is having a good time, I don't think you can blame the game.
 

futurefields

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When a AAA title gives you problems and everyone else is having a good time, I don't think you can blame the game.

There's a 40+ page ongoing thread about the stuttering on Ubisoft's forum with no response from the developers. I'm not the only one who noticed this.

Anyways, I didnt say its unenjoyable it's just really stuttery sometimes where I feel it shouldn't be.
 

TechBoyJK

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There's a 40+ page ongoing thread about the stuttering on Ubisoft's forum with no response from the developers. I'm not the only one who noticed this.

Anyways, I didnt say its unenjoyable it's just really stuttery sometimes where I feel it shouldn't be.

That's a shame. Wasn't attempting to be confrontational.

MY experience was

1) Buy
2) Install
3) Play
4) Have fun

I really had no issues with it.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Games stuttery on my 7950, but I have a weak i3-540 that can't deal with the FoV and View Distance.

I think it looks ok, but the texture quality is console level... I feel they could have done a lot better, compared to something like Bioshock Infinite which used over 2GB without MSAA, I can barely break 1GB with FC3 without gobs of MSAA and it shows in the textures.
 

Anteaus

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They both run like pigs. Far Cry 3 is a worse offender though. Even at high frame rates it feels rough. It's almost like the engine runs at a lower internal framerate than what is actually being shipped to the GPU. I can't prove it, but at 60 FPS the game should be smooth as silk. Instead, it feels similar to how a 24 FPS film looks on a 60hz TV...slightly jittery. Perhaps a optimization issue?

I've heard of some people having better experiences but this is mine and it seems to be a wide spread opinion. I didn't get far into the game because of it.
 

Nintendesert

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Games stuttery on my 7950, but I have a weak i3-540 that can't deal with the FoV and View Distance.

I think it looks ok, but the texture quality is console level... I feel they could have done a lot better, compared to something like Bioshock Infinite which used over 2GB without MSAA, I can barely break 1GB with FC3 without gobs of MSAA and it shows in the textures.



I use a 680 and the game is a mess. Not every one notices such stutter but I find it painful. I might have to limit the FPS due to it being a console port.
 

futurefields

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Ive heard frame limiting can help. I havent tried yet but will today.

Anybody know of a good frame limiter for AMD cards?
 

Stringjam

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I had the stuttering problems in FC3 when I played it with a 570. I found that I HAD to adjust settings to keep it above 60FPS in order to avoid the stuttering.

I don't have the issues now that I have a 670, but I would certainly hope it would handle it.