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Which fits better: 680i or 650i

jshuck3

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Looking to get new computer and weighing 680i vs 650i. Have a 20" widescreen LCD with no plans to change anytime soon.

Looking at:
C2D E6600
Corsair XMS 2 GB (4-4-4-12) EPP profile
8800GTS (just one)

Would like to be able to handle the DX10 games coming out next year so don't know if SLI will become necessary at that point or not. I just don't know if all the extras on the 680i is worth the extra money for what I'm looking at buying. If I don't do SLI now is it worth having a board with full x16 SLI PLUS a third slot for physics? Dual gig nics would be nice, but I don't think I really need them. Just looking for others thoughts.

Thanks!
 
Don't know how to advise you. It really is a "what is your personal preference" sort of question. I'm holding on for (probably) some flavor of a 650i board because I want/need the capability to attach 4 PATA devices. (The 680i only supports 2 PATA devices/1 connector).

-john
 
650i is a weak overclocker. 412.5Mhz is the stated max FSB speed which is weak by any yardstick. Who knows how stable that crippled board is? And what else they crippled because you didn't get the 680i based board?

Nvidia wants you to buy their expensive 680i-chipset board in case you haven't figured it out yet.

Which is why I will buy an Intel chipset board. 😛
 
That's a bios limitation, NOT a chipset "stated max FSB speed."

Asus does that to make you buy their high end board. THey did this with the P5B vanilla if you recall, but then removed it later with a bios update.
 
hmm...and can you trust that they will remove the bios limitation or someone will hack the bios??

Coz it definitely sounds like a very good chip, but that limitation cripples it...

 
Not sure. I'm not going to buy it hoping they will remove it. I just wanted to point out it's an Asus thing, not a chipset ... yet. I was very excited to see the board until that bios limitation, even though I have a QX6700 so I have the multiplier, I want full capabilities.
 
Originally posted by: Beachboy
650i is a weak overclocker. 412.5Mhz is the stated max FSB speed which is weak by any yardstick. Who knows how stable that crippled board is? And what else they crippled because you didn't get the 680i based board?
Nvidia wants you to buy their expensive 680i-chipset board in case you haven't figured it out yet.
Which is why I will buy an Intel chipset board. 😛
So you basically feel more confident in the overclocking stability of a chipset which Intel (I assume) won't guarantee above 266MHz? :roll: To each their own. 🙂

-john

 
@zjohnr -- where did u see any guarantee that Asus 650i will manage to reach that 412 ?? lol

they both say, u can "select" that fsb speed, nobody says "support, will run, etc" .

Your amount % of overclocking depends on many things apart from mobo abilities...including a luck factor too 😛

 
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
@zjohnr -- where did u see any guarantee that Asus 650i will manage to reach that 412 ?? lol
I was not thinking about what Asus guarantees. I was thinking about statements I believe I have read in articles about the Nvidea 600i series. In other words, it's my belief that in the case of the 650i the chipset maker is guaranteeing that you can reach those speeds. What FSB speed guarantees does Intel make about their current chipsets?

If I am wrong about that, I'm wrong. (It wouldn't be the first time). But if nothing else, Asus and Nvidia certainly seem to guarantee the chipset will hit a 333 FSB with no problems. Does Intel also make that claim about their P965 (for example) chipset?

-john

 
Originally posted by: zjohnr
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
@zjohnr -- where did u see any guarantee that Asus 650i will manage to reach that 412 ?? lol
I was not thinking about what Asus guarantees. I was thinking about statements I believe I have read in articles about the Nvidea 600i series. In other words, it's my belief that in the case of the 650i the chipset maker is guaranteeing that you can reach those speeds. What FSB speed guarantees does Intel make about their current chipsets?

If I am wrong about that, I'm wrong. (It wouldn't be the first time). But if nothing else, Asus and Nvidia certainly seem to guarantee the chipset will hit a 333 FSB with no problems. Does Intel also make that claim about their P965 (for example) chipset?

-john
Well who really cares about what manufacturers guarantee? You gotta go with real world results. Intel could guarantee 100fsb for all i care if end users are getting 450 or more.
 
Originally posted by: deeznuts
Well who really cares about what manufacturers guarantee?
Judging from the number of folks out there who are willing to pay a premium to get PC2-6400 or higher DRAM, it seems to matter to quite a few. Why people are willing to pay a premium price for a higher manufacturer rating for their memory but consider it irrelevant when it comes to a motherboard is not quite clear to me.

I can understand taking a chance if you have no other choice. I just don't think that's the necessarily the case any longer. But you're right that none of this speculation means anything if the boards don't come through with the numbers when tested.

-john

 
Until we see a working 650 version or read an actual review of some sort I wouldnt even bother to guess how well it'll overclock/perform.
 
Originally posted by: EKTELESTES
hmm...and can you trust that they will remove the bios limitation or someone will hack the bios??
there will probably be a Clockgen version or similar for it.

I'm waiting for real world tests first too.

 
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