Which do you fear more?

[techs]

Which do you fear more:
Lightening striking you?
Terrorist attack?
Food borne illness?
Traffic accident?

Interestingly your chance of death is greater from all these other than a terrorist attack.
People lets act like we have a pair in the US!
Only cowards fear the extreme unlikeliness of a terrorist attack and are willing to give up their freedoms for some hoped for small degree of safety!
I notice how people are terrified of a terrorist attack and will give up their freedoms but they don't support stricter food inspection or car inspections.

 

[raildogg]

A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?

Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

 

[Remy XO]

Without fear how are we supposed to have support to rage war on countries? Majority of citizens do not like war, give them a reason and they will give support. Fear of something, weither it being terrorist, religious, aliens, or anything and you will get the support of the citizens. Look closely in history and how Tyrant leaders started wars. I dont see the difference now.

 

[mc00]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?

Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

Why cut defense spending? we could afford protect our self within own country instead going around invading countrys looking for cockroaches probably laughing there asses off at us(except IRAQ, I'm still haven't been convience IRAQ had something to with it).


Which do you fear more:
Lightening striking you? no worry there by me
Terrorist attack? heh - no worry there neither
Food borne illness? ? nah
Traffic accident? maybe, drunk SOB
let me add
cancer - <- hell yes!

 

[AragornTK]

I'm not scared of anything... i've had a gun pointed in my face... it occured to me that I might die, but that acting scared would be more crippling than a bullet wound...

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: AragornTK
I'm not scared of anything... i've had a gun pointed in my face... it occured to me that I might die, but that acting scared would be more crippling than a bullet wound...

I onece had one pointed at my heart. Once you get thru something like that not much scares you.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

Not a bad idea at all.

And of the $140 billion a year we would NOT be spending on Iraq, we could spend half the savings on child care for the poor, health care research, and improvements to automobile safety systems, thereby saving many tens of thousands more lives each year than our current war on terror is saving.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?

Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

Come on, use that brain we all know must be up there. We can do a lot about things besides terrorist attacks, I face a greater risk of death from an idiot talking on his cell phone and driving an SUV that is twice the size of my car hitting me on the highway than I do from terrorists, and I live in the Baltimore/Washington area, a prime target for terrorists. Yet even simple legislation that bans talking on your cell phone while driving isn't present in most areas. And that's just one example.

But that's not the point, we're talking about FEAR, not action. Of course focusing our efforts on fighting those things we can fight makes sense, but that's not the same thing as asking what you are afraid of. People are preoccupied with fears of terrorist attacks, despite the fact that it's much more likely they'll die of cancer or heart disease. It has nothing to do with taking a rational look at what we can do about it, otherwise fast food restaurants around the country would close down for lack of business, not eating at McD's is more likely to save your life than all the anti-terror actions we could possibly take. And besides, surveys have shown that the people most concerned about terrorism are the people least likely to be victims of it, like those who live in small town, middle America.

Clearly it's not about risk and ability to fight it, it's about irrational fear.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: techs
Which do you fear more:
Lightening striking you?
Terrorist attack?
Food borne illness?
Traffic accident?

Interestingly your chance of death is greater from all these other than a terrorist attack.
People lets act like we have a pair in the US!
Only cowards fear the extreme unlikeliness of a terrorist attack and are willing to give up their freedoms for some hoped for small degree of safety!
I notice how people are terrified of a terrorist attack and will give up their freedoms but they don't support stricter food inspection or car inspections.

Driving is far and away the single most dangerous thing most of us do, yet most people are far too casual about it. I've always been struck by the irony -- or perhaps lunacy is a better word for it -- of the people who sheepishly accept all sorts of draconian measures offering feeble protection against terrorism, yet would never accept even minor steps to improve driving safety.

 

[conjur]

I don't fear any of those.

 

[BBond]

George W. Bush winning a presidential election.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: raildogg
A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?

Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

Come on, use that brain we all know must be up there. We can do a lot about things besides terrorist attacks, I face a greater risk of death from an idiot talking on his cell phone and driving an SUV that is twice the size of my car hitting me on the highway than I do from terrorists, and I live in the Baltimore/Washington area, a prime target for terrorists. Yet even simple legislation that bans talking on your cell phone while driving isn't present in most areas. And that's just one example.

But that's not the point, we're talking about FEAR, not action. Of course focusing our efforts on fighting those things we can fight makes sense, but that's not the same thing as asking what you are afraid of. People are preoccupied with fears of terrorist attacks, despite the fact that it's much more likely they'll die of cancer or heart disease. It has nothing to do with taking a rational look at what we can do about it, otherwise fast food restaurants around the country would close down for lack of business, not eating at McD's is more likely to save your life than all the anti-terror actions we could possibly take. And besides, surveys have shown that the people most concerned about terrorism are the people least likely to be victims of it, like those who live in small town, middle America.

Clearly it's not about risk and ability to fight it, it's about irrational fear.

Well, just because you seem to disagree doesn't mean that I am not using my brain. It's obviously a bit different than what is considered mainstream on this forum. There is a difference between a natural disaster and a terrorist strike. Any rational human being will realize this. We have the ability to limit the harm these people can do to us. We spend money to prevent the risk from a natural disaster, and we must do the same to defend against and fight terrorism.

Do you people forget the impact on our economy from a major terrorist attack? The entertainment district of New York City was basically shut down after 9/11 and thousands of people lost their jobs immediately. I'm not even going to bring the airline horror stories from that time. A terror strike will bring this country to its knees.

When you say fear, that fear will consume this whole nation after an attack and grind it to a halt. Yes we could spend the money that we spend on Iraq elsewhere, but since that is not case, come up with an alternative plan other than simply saying "We can't do nothing against terrorism". BTW, its good to see that we are starting to reduce our forces in Iraq.

You're missing the point. Eating McDs every day will harm your health. But that is a choice that you make. A terrorist that wants to kill you gives you no choice. It is up to you to let him get away or bring him or her to justice.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Well, just because you seem to disagree doesn't mean that I am not using my brain. It's obviously a bit different than what is considered mainstream on this forum. There is a difference between a natural disaster and a terrorist strike. Any rational human being will realize this. We have the ability to limit the harm these people can do to us. We spend money to prevent the risk from a natural disaster, and we must do the same to defend against and fight terrorism.
[ ... ]
You're missing the point. Eating McDs every day will harm your health. But that is a choice that you make. A terrorist that wants to kill you gives you no choice. It is up to you to let him get away or bring him or her to justice.

I notice that you have not addressed the most glaring counter-example to your position: driving or riding in a motor vehicle. It is the most dangerous item on the list, it is not a natural disaster, and one does not have an easy choice for avoiding dangerous drivers.

• "Driving is far and away the single most dangerous thing most of us do, yet most people are far too casual about it. I've always been struck by the irony -- or perhaps lunacy is a better word for it -- of the people who sheepishly accept all sorts of draconian measures offering feeble protection against terrorism, yet would never accept even minor steps to improve driving safety."

If it's really about mitigating risk and not about creating fear, why are BushCo's attentions overwhlmingly focused on terrorism instead of motorist safety?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: raildogg
A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?

Lets just sit back, recall our troops, cut our defense spending and wait for these people to keep attacking us.

Come on, use that brain we all know must be up there. We can do a lot about things besides terrorist attacks, I face a greater risk of death from an idiot talking on his cell phone and driving an SUV that is twice the size of my car hitting me on the highway than I do from terrorists, and I live in the Baltimore/Washington area, a prime target for terrorists. Yet even simple legislation that bans talking on your cell phone while driving isn't present in most areas. And that's just one example.

But that's not the point, we're talking about FEAR, not action. Of course focusing our efforts on fighting those things we can fight makes sense, but that's not the same thing as asking what you are afraid of. People are preoccupied with fears of terrorist attacks, despite the fact that it's much more likely they'll die of cancer or heart disease. It has nothing to do with taking a rational look at what we can do about it, otherwise fast food restaurants around the country would close down for lack of business, not eating at McD's is more likely to save your life than all the anti-terror actions we could possibly take. And besides, surveys have shown that the people most concerned about terrorism are the people least likely to be victims of it, like those who live in small town, middle America.

Clearly it's not about risk and ability to fight it, it's about irrational fear.

Well, just because you seem to disagree doesn't mean that I am not using my brain. It's obviously a bit different than what is considered mainstream on this forum. There is a difference between a natural disaster and a terrorist strike. Any rational human being will realize this. We have the ability to limit the harm these people can do to us. We spend money to prevent the risk from a natural disaster, and we must do the same to defend against and fight terrorism.

Do you people forget the impact on our economy from a major terrorist attack? The entertainment district of New York City was basically shut down after 9/11 and thousands of people lost their jobs immediately. I'm not even going to bring the airline horror stories from that time. A terror strike will bring this country to its knees.

When you say fear, that fear will consume this whole nation after an attack and grind it to a halt. Yes we could spend the money that we spend on Iraq elsewhere, but since that is not case, come up with an alternative plan other than simply saying "We can't do nothing against terrorism". BTW, its good to see that we are starting to reduce our forces in Iraq.

You're missing the point. Eating McDs every day will harm your health. But that is a choice that you make. A terrorist that wants to kill you gives you no choice. It is up to you to let him get away or bring him or her to justice.

Katrina caused much more devastation, economically, than did the 9/11 attacks. The only difference between the impacts in the stock market was one of emotion (fear).

 

[alchemize]

Losing a member of my family for whatever reason. Most frightening concept I know of.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: techs
Which do you fear more:
Lightening striking you?
Terrorist attack?
Food borne illness?
Traffic accident?

Interestingly your chance of death is greater from all these other than a terrorist attack.
People lets act like we have a pair in the US!
Only cowards fear the extreme unlikeliness of a terrorist attack and are willing to give up their freedoms for some hoped for small degree of safety!
I notice how people are terrified of a terrorist attack and will give up their freedoms but they don't support stricter food inspection or car inspections.

on the subject of lightning, since that is weather related, and I live in tampa bay, which is the lightning capital of the USA, and on the subject of weather, I fear hurricanes more than anything else.

 

[EatSpam]

Traffic accident. I can't control the idiots on the roads. And out of those options, the odds are I'd die in a car crash before the others.

 

[ntdz]

I don't fear getting attacked myself by a terrorist attack, but did you see the affect 9/11 had on our economy? That's what I fear about a terrorist attack...

 

[bamacre]

"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."

It's still true today.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: raildogg
A terrorist attack is from humans, and we can do something about it for the most part. We can't stop lightning, for example. Yes, I understand you people don't take terorrism seriously, but really, have you totally forgotten 9/11?
.

You sound like a bad country song. Do you live in NYC? That's where 9/11 took place (for the most part). Do you see them living in terror? Do you see them voting for a police state? Do you see them voting for Bush? How is it that red necks in bum-f#ck nowhere are so afraid, yet they are the last targets on Earth? Maybe you should give Fox News and Rush a rest, they have you guys peeing your pants like little girls. At least us blue state folks can see through the terror alerts and fear mongering and get on with our lives.

To the OT, I fear a car accident far more than a mythical terroist. I live in the land of the free and I intend to keep it that way. I'm not changing my life one bit, that's the whole point of terroism and I don't intend to scream and hide.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

surveys have shown that the people most concerned about terrorism are the people least likely to be victims of it, like those who live in small town, middle America.

Clearly it's not about risk and ability to fight it, it's about irrational fear.

Originally posted by: Todd33

You sound like a bad country song. Do you live in NYC? That's where 9/11 took place (for the most part). Do you see them living in terror? Do you see them voting for a police state? Do you see them voting for Bush? How is it that red necks in bum-f#ck nowhere are so afraid, yet they are the last targets on Earth? Maybe you should give Fox News and Rush a rest, they have you guys peeing your pants like little girls. At least us blue state folks can see through the terror alerts and fear mongering and get on with our lives.

A rare "two'fer" QFT

 

[Cerb]

A terrorist attack is a greater threat than a terrorist attack?! Wow!

I'm not afraid of any of those things.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: raildogg
Well, just because you seem to disagree doesn't mean that I am not using my brain. It's obviously a bit different than what is considered mainstream on this forum. There is a difference between a natural disaster and a terrorist strike. Any rational human being will realize this. We have the ability to limit the harm these people can do to us. We spend money to prevent the risk from a natural disaster, and we must do the same to defend against and fight terrorism.
[ ... ]
You're missing the point. Eating McDs every day will harm your health. But that is a choice that you make. A terrorist that wants to kill you gives you no choice. It is up to you to let him get away or bring him or her to justice.

I notice that you have not addressed the most glaring counter-example to your position: driving or riding in a motor vehicle. It is the most dangerous item on the list, it is not a natural disaster, and one does not have an easy choice for avoiding dangerous drivers.

• "Driving is far and away the single most dangerous thing most of us do, yet most people are far too casual about it. I've always been struck by the irony -- or perhaps lunacy is a better word for it -- of the people who sheepishly accept all sorts of draconian measures offering feeble protection against terrorism, yet would never accept even minor steps to improve driving safety."

If it's really about mitigating risk and not about creating fear, why are BushCo's attentions overwhlmingly focused on terrorism instead of motorist safety?

Any of the other Bush supporters care to address this?

 

[wchou]

pain.death.lonliness.,/l;'p][]

 

[conjur]

You been drinkin', wchou?