Which diamond should I buy?

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Don't buy a diamond. That's my advice.

Hmm. Well, I think my gf will be disappointed when I give her a Radeon X800XT and say, "Will you marry me?"

:roll:
I didn't suggest anything of that nature. I just don't support the diamond industry.

I know, I was just kidding :beer:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Don't buy a diamond. That's my advice.

Hmm. Well, I think my gf will be disappointed when I give her a Radeon X800XT and say, "Will you marry me?"

:roll:
I didn't suggest anything of that nature. I just don't support the diamond industry.

I know, I was just kidding :beer:

However, a valid replacement would be a real live bananaphone. What girl wouldn't love that?

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Don't buy a diamond. That's my advice.

Hmm. Well, I think my gf will be disappointed when I give her a Radeon X800XT and say, "Will you marry me?"

:roll:
I didn't suggest anything of that nature. I just don't support the diamond industry.

I know, I was just kidding :beer:

However, a valid replacement would be a real live bananaphone. What girl wouldn't love that?

:laugh:
Ring, Ring, Ring...Bananaphone!!!

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: dullard
Look clearly at both. If you don't see flaws with the naked eye then forget about the clarity label. Look for a milky, cracked, or cloudy appearance. Also look for inclusions like carbon which often appear very clearly to the naked eye in diamonds which are labeled as VS or VVS.

A GIA certed stone w/ a clarity of VS2 or higher should have no visible (to the naked eye) inclusions. If it does, it is not a VS+ stone. Also, all certs are not created equally. I would only trust GIA certs.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: DBL
A GIA certed stone w/ a clarity of VS2 or higher should have no visible (to the naked eye) inclusions. If it does, it is not a VS+ stone. Also, all certs are not created equally. I would only trust GIA certs.

Sadly, GIA certs are often faked. Or they will show you a real GIA certification for another diamond that you aren't buying. When I bought my wife's engagement ring I'd say about 90% of the ~30 stores I went to flat out lied when it came to the diamond's true features. GIA certs or not.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: Lola

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: DingDingDao
I thought F was still classified as colorless. I know there is a difference between D and F, but shouldn't that difference be marginal?

Marginal does not even begin to describe it. I cannot tell a difference between a D and a G, honestly. That being said, VVS2 versus VS1 is just as useless. You aren't going to be able to tell the difference.

So what you're saying is, both diamonds (to the naked eye) are pretty much identical, right?

Yes, in every way. How is the florecense on both?

Both diamonds have no fluorescence. I've heard from some people that more fluorescence makes the diamond really sparkle in the light, but most jewelers I've spoken to say that it reduces the value of the diamond.

LOL! i jsut read your sig!!! did you just put that in your sig?! i think its hilarious!!! :laugh:

Haha no I put that in my sig a while back. Someone was asking about engagement rings and Edro chimed in with the quote of the day.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: GideonX
Buy the D color. Since they are both very slight included and ideal cut, the color is what will make the diamond 'sparkle'. I just bought an engagement ring in Dec and the jeweler put two different colored stones next to each other, you can see the difference with the naked eye.

If this diamond is going in a setting, the color may not be that much of an issue. If the color F, it'll be less noticable in a gold setting. Good luck 🙂

It's going into an engagment ring, set in platinum.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: DBL
A GIA certed stone w/ a clarity of VS2 or higher should have no visible (to the naked eye) inclusions. If it does, it is not a VS+ stone. Also, all certs are not created equally. I would only trust GIA certs.

Sadly, GIA certs are often faked. Or they will show you a real GIA certification for another diamond that you aren't buying. When I bought my wife's engagement ring I'd say about 90% of the ~30 stores I went to flat out lied when it came to the diamond's true features. GIA certs or not.

Simply ask if you can have the stone independently appraised or matched to the GIA cert? An honest dealer should not have a problem with that request.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: DBL
A GIA certed stone w/ a clarity of VS2 or higher should have no visible (to the naked eye) inclusions. If it does, it is not a VS+ stone. Also, all certs are not created equally. I would only trust GIA certs.

Sadly, GIA certs are often faked. Or they will show you a real GIA certification for another diamond that you aren't buying. When I bought my wife's engagement ring I'd say about 90% of the ~30 stores I went to flat out lied when it came to the diamond's true features. GIA certs or not.

Both diamonds are GIA certified. I would have to say I trust both jewelers, as they are both very, very well known. I doubt they would risk their reputations on a faked GIA cert.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: DBL
Simply ask if you can have the stone independently appraised or matched to the GIA cert? An honest dealer should not have a problem with that request.

Way too much effort. I walk into an unknown store. Ask about VS or VVS diamond that meets my needs. If I can clearly see flaws, I leave the store and never come back. Why take the time and effort to get an independent appraisal when you already know you are dealing with a crook?

 

[richardycc]

its all come down to the cutting, not all ideal cuts are the same. what are the diameter of the diamonds? IF they both look good to you, I would get the F color one because it is a better deal. I know better deal and diamond shouldn't be in the same sentence, but the F one is slightly heavier, better clarity, and you can't tell the different between D and F color with naked eyes without them being next to each other. I got my wife a F color princess with great cutting that scores very high in the all 3 areas from the brilliancescope, and she loves it.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: DBL
Simply ask if you can have the stone independently appraised or matched to the GIA cert? An honest dealer should not have a problem with that request.

Way too much effort. I walk into an unknown store. Ask about VS or VVS diamond that meets my needs. If I can clearly see flaws, I leave the store and never come back. Why take the time and effort to get an independent appraisal when you already know you are dealing with a crook?

Obviously. If you are not sure, I would put forth the effort. Diamonds aren't exactly cheap. Being proactive and thorough are almost mandatory requirements when purchasing a diamond. You are right to be cynical and considering the cost, I?d say the extra work is well worth it, considering it could possible save you thousands of $'s.

 

[frankie38]

Please do yourself a biggie...go up to at least 1 carat. 1 carat and above have a much better resale and residual value. ( in case she wants to trade up.....)

oh yeah...get it gia certified...otherwise you have no idea what you are really buying.

 

[jamesave]

have tried blue nile? bluenile.com

 

[Lola]

Originally posted by: frankie38
Please do yourself a biggie...go up to at least 1 carat. 1 carat and above have a much better resale and residual value. ( in case she wants to trade up.....)

oh yeah...get it gia certified...otherwise you have no idea what you are really buying.

if financially possible... dont go into debt for it. if you can afford it, go for it, you will have a very happy fiancee. One carat i think is just perfect!!!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Don't buy a diamond. That's my advice.

Hmm. Well, I think my gf will be disappointed when I give her a Radeon X800XT and say, "Will you marry me?"

Yeah, it probably wouldn't go well with most of her clothes either. :roll:

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: frankie38
Please do yourself a biggie...go up to at least 1 carat. 1 carat and above have a much better resale and residual value. ( in case she wants to trade up.....)

oh yeah...get it gia certified...otherwise you have no idea what you are really buying.

You realize that price per carat increases as weight increases? He'd be paying significantly more for a 1ct diamond, which would be indistinguishable from a .91 ct diamond.

RAP prices for 1/14/2005

1ct D VS1 BR diamond $9200/ct = $9200
.91 D VS1 BR diamond $7000/ct = $6370

So yeah, get a 1ct if you have an extra $3K to blow.

 

[frankie38]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: frankie38
Please do yourself a biggie...go up to at least 1 carat. 1 carat and above have a much better resale and residual value. ( in case she wants to trade up.....)

oh yeah...get it gia certified...otherwise you have no idea what you are really buying.

You realize that price per carat increases as weight increases? He'd be paying significantly more for a 1ct diamond, which would be indistinguishable from a .91 ct diamond.

RAP prices for 1/14/2005

1ct D VS1 BR diamond $9200/ct = $9200
.91 D VS1 BR diamond $7000/ct = $6370

So yeah, get a 1ct if you have an extra $3K to blow.

What is 3k when you are in LOVE! Go for it!

 

[LordSnailz]

I agree stay under the 1 carat range ... size wise to the eye, they will pretty much look the same. If you compare the table width against a 1 carat, they are similar. Where are the inclusion located at for each diamond?

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: LordSnailz
I agree stay under the 1 carat range ... size wise to the eye, they will pretty much look the same. If you compare the table width against a 1 carat, they are similar. Where are the inclusion located at for each diamond?

Not sure yet. I'm going to see one of them today and the other one will be at the jeweler's this weekend.

As for the one carat thing, yeah, I realized I wanted to stay under a carat when the difference in price between 99 points and 1 full carat is over $1000. Kinda ridiculous, and this diamond is not going to be resold.

 

[edmicman]

So is bluenile better than a B&M store (NOT a mall chain)?