Which cpu/gpu/ram to choose right now ?

[Temuka]

Since nobody is helping me in this thread :
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/help-me-choose-correct-build.2555526/
Maybe someone will helpo me out here ?

So this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I--zROoRws&t=848s

Gaming on 1440p with 2700x vs 9700k brings almost no difference (5%) and on 4K they have 0 difference,I don't know what to do. 2700x is 290$ on ebay and 9700k is 410$ on amazon but I guess in several days or couple of weeks it goes down to 370$,money isn't really a problem here,since difference is 80-90$,I jsut want to be sure I spend money in correct way,also what about motherboards price difference,which mobo I need for ryzen and which one for intel ?

 

[TheGiant]

If gaming 9700K. You won't make a mistake

 

[Ottonomous]

If the price difference isn't an issue, and you're not transferring the difference to beefy cooling or the GPU to move up a bracket, then the 9700K

 

[happy medium]

9700k overclocked and a rtx2080 will last you for years.
Id go with that, if you have the money as I do, get the best,why not?

 

[ewite12]

Best is subjective I prefer my 2950x over a 9700k. Even with a 1080ti with all the settings up at either 1440p or 4k the CPU isn't the bottleneck.

 

[jpiniero]

8600k or 8700K.

 

[happy medium]

Best is subjective I prefer my 2950x over a 9700k. Even with a 1080ti with all the settings up at either 1440p or 4k the CPU isn't the bottleneck.

But in a year or 2 when the 7nm Navi or 3080ti is out you will need the extra IPC and frequency of a 8 or 9 series Intel CPU at 1440p especially and possibly 4k also.
Buy a 2700 now and you'll need to spend more money on a 3700 next year just to keep up with faster gpu's in the not so distant future.

 

[scannall]

I'll go against the grain here. If you're high res gaming, then get a 2600X, a B450 motherboard and 16 gig of ram. All of that is just over $400. Or about the same as just the 8700K with nothing else. The savings will let you bump your video card a tier or two. The CPU isn't near as important as the video card, particulalry at higher resolutions and detail settings.

 

[Markfw]

I vote 2700x. Unless you want the top 10% of gaming performance, spend more on the video card. 1080TI @ $500 should be fine.

No mention of budget.

 

[epsilon84]

For gaming only, 9700K. Even at 1440P, the minimums are stronger on the 9700K. If money isn't an issue, no reason to go with the slower gaming CPU IMO.

 

[DaveSimmons]

How many years will you be using it?

If 3 years or less the AMD CPU should be fine. If 3+ years then the intel 8700K.

If money is not much of an object, the 8700K is nice to have, but at 1440p and 4K the GPU matters much more.

What GPU do you have now? If possible it would be nice to wait until mid-to-late next year and see if nvidia decides to lower 2080 & ti prices down to more sane levels. If you must buy now then the 1080 ti is a better choice for a reasonable budget.

 

[Dasa2]

I would go Ryzen 2600 if it allows you to get a better GPU as the 2700X costs twice as much for ah heck all difference in current games, Then you can upgrade to Ryzen 2 later if you wish.

Next step up would be 8600K with at least 3200c14\3600c16 RAM which should OC to around 4000MHz with tight timings which will bring bigger performance gains than overclocking the CPU itself.

Then I would probably skip 9600k and 8700k for 9700k & maybe up the RAM to 3600c15 for a higher bin if there was room left in the budget without sacrificing other parts.

 

[Shmee]

Budget?

 

[Temuka]

Thanks for activity in this thread guys. My budget for cpu+gpu is something between 800-1100$ (depends what we decide) and I want to build this pc for long term (I mean quick changing of gpu/nvme/hdd is totally ok,but I'm too lazy for mobo/cpu/ram changes and that's why I want little longer future-proof in this parts)

 

[Malogeek]

For that budget I'd go a 2600X and a 2080.

 

[Shmee]

Agreed, since at 1440p, makes sense to get the best GPU you can within the budget. A 2080 and a 2600X with 16GB fast RAM will suit you well. Motherboard will be fairly inexpensive as well, unless you are going with the ROG Crosshair VII or something. Since you mentioned long term, a Ryzen makes sense I believe as later on the extra threads could be of use, or you could go to Zen 2 etc when available, if desired.

For the RAM, I would recommend a DDR4 3200C14 kit, as it should be guaranteed B-Die, which is the sweet spot for Ryzen. Gskill Trident Z is often of these specs. Remember to get a 2x8GB kit, as Ryzen likes fast, dual channel RAM and prefers only 2 sticks for faster speed.

 

[Temuka]

Will 3000hz ram kit with cl16-18-18-38 will be ok if I take 9700k ?

 

[Gikaseixas]

Thanks for activity in this thread guys. My budget for cpu+gpu is something between 800-1100$ (depends what we decide) and I want to build this pc for long term (I mean quick changing of gpu/nvme/hdd is totally ok,but I'm too lazy for mobo/cpu/ram changes and that's why I want little longer future-proof in this parts)

With that budget I would try a Intel i5 8400 or AMD Ryzen 2600, along with a 2080

 

[Arkaign]

Thanks for activity in this thread guys. My budget for cpu+gpu is something between 800-1100$ (depends what we decide) and I want to build this pc for long term (I mean quick changing of gpu/nvme/hdd is totally ok,but I'm too lazy for mobo/cpu/ram changes and that's why I want little longer future-proof in this parts)

With a 1080ti, there was not a big difference between Ryzen and i5/i7 Coffee Lake.

When 2080ti emerged, it started to open a gap at 1440p, and a small one at 4k.

Basically the more powerful GPU reveals more performance from the current Intel crop vs current Ryzens.

Given this, and the prospect of next gen Nvidia getting a good boost from 7nm and 5nm, we should see gaps open more at 1440/4k using the same CPUs.

So if you want to keep a CPU long term, but upgrade a GPU once or twice, then I'd go find someone upgrading from an 8700k and steal it, or at least an 8600k.

Otoh, if you're willing to see what a later drop-in Zen2 might do in your existing mobo/rig, then a 2600 or so won't be a problem honestly.

All of that is describing someone playing max settings though. If you are interested in 100hz, 144hz, 165, etc and are willing to tune GPU to get extreme high frame rates and demand fewer CPU bottleneck for that pursuit, then it's 8700k or better without a doubt. This is me, I run Gysnc Ultrawide with 1080ti Strix, and I definitely don't mind dropping a few settings to make sure I keep it close to 100 or higher. I tested with my 1700X OG Ryzen, and it was noticeably worse. I can also run Patriot 3733@4Ghz with my 370 Aorus 5, whereas my 1700/Xpower 370 Gaming Titanium setup maxed out at 2800 stable, though I could push 2933 at really loose timing.

 

[Arkaign]

Forgot, if you're willing to save money on used/warrantied parts, a 1080ti offers similar performance to a 2080 for a ton less money. Lot of people upgrading to the newest flagship means a lot of 1080tis on the market, increased by people leaving mining as well (underrated option, as most miners underclock/undervolt for improved efficiency and profit).

Eg; I see a 1080ti 11GB @ $515 in FS&T. That leaves a budget boost for a long term CPU.

 

[scannall]

CPU, Motherboard, fast RAM and a top end video card. $1189. Parts List

 

[Temuka]

Forgot, if you're willing to save money on used/warrantied parts, a 1080ti offers similar performance to a 2080 for a ton less money. Lot of people upgrading to the newest flagship means a lot of 1080tis on the market, increased by people leaving mining as well (underrated option, as most miners underclock/undervolt for improved efficiency and profit).

Eg; I see a 1080ti 11GB @ $515 in FS&T. That leaves a budget boost for a long term CPU.

What is FS&T?

 

[happy medium]

What is FS&T?

For sale ,trade

 

[Temuka]

CPU, Motherboard, fast RAM and a top end video card. $1189. Parts List

What difference will be between 200$ cl14 and 120$ cl16 ddr4 RAM ? is almost twice price difference justified?

p.s jsut saw some tests from youtube,there was almost 0% difference between cl14 and cl16,sometimes there was 2-3 fps more but I think it wouldn't be wise to pay almost 2x for cl14...

 

[Malogeek]

What difference will be between 200$ cl14 and 120$ cl16 ddr4 RAM ? is almost twice price difference justified?

Yes, don't skimp on the RAM, especially for Ryzen platform.