Which cpu for triple titan setup?

[blackened23]

With 3 cards I think the LGA2011 platform.

Essentially I would say LGA11xx peaks at 2 cards.

This. LGA 2011 is much better suited for Tri or Quad SLI than Z87/Z77 is.

Although I must say, using Tri SLI for a *single monitor* is insanity IMHO. IF you're using surround, go tri SLI. Otherwise you can save a lot of money and get the EXACT same results with 2 way SLI and a 4770k. There is no reason for tri sli on a single monitor.

 

[aigomorla]

2 indendant loops 4 pumps for redundant.

You dont need 4 radiators...

Personally id go RX480 for the GPU.
And a single RX360 for the cpu.

and this type of topic belongs in my section... so head over to cases and cooling and ask for advice... and keep this thread on track with the core system.

But that also belongs in general hardware... so this thread is kinda lost in limbo right now.

Mah.. IDC will clean it up... Sorry IDC..

i'm getting 3 years waranty and the store is 20mins away from my place so it's not that bad isnt it ? They've been doing this for years now, havent seen anyone complain about them, they're sponsored by asus France etc

i dont care if he's the antigod of watercooling.
Anyone whose done this, even a new starter finds out quickly how things can go from OK to MESSY.

You have no idea on how to service the system either... Yes u need to service a custom LC system like a car with oil changes...

If everything is fine sure... its OK... when something goes wrong, and u dont realize something is wrong... ZAP.. FRY!...
You get the point?

Would you trust someone to build a model toy when they have absolutely no knowledge in how to build it nor the tools to fix it or even how it works?
And when something goes wrong at night during off hours... do you think a store 20min away is any consolidation to the immediate problem ur facing at that moment?

again...
dont watercool if u have no part in building it.
I dont care who builds it... its not a smart / safe thing to do.
I learned the hard way by watercooling my brothers system whose 2 rooms across me.
NEVER AGAIN... NEVER....

 

[UNhooked]

I think get the 3930K for now and then later upgrade to IVY E. I was going to do the same but got an excellent deal on a 3960x so I don't plan to upgrade to Ivy -E.

If you don't want to wait and don't want to tinker buy the 3960x/3970x and call it a day.

Botton line Sandy -E runs cooler and can be OCed much higher.

Just my 2 cents.

Update: As for watercooling. I'd go with 2 independent loops One just for CPU and one for the video cards. However 1 loop with 2 pumps and 3 x 360mm should be more than enough. Titans don't run as hot as AMD cards

I do agree with what the other poster said regarding watercooling and build a watercooling rig

 

[EliteRetard]

Custom designed carbon fiber case. <--- i can get...but cant afford..

Waterblocks cooling blocks remilled and redone in pure silver. <--- i can also get but cant afford
^ u can go here...

watercooling on CPU + Board + Gpu

Professional Air brushing. <--- can get
Low Iron Glass side panel window. <--- also can get
Complete System automation on separate intel atom PC tucked away which controls the LC system independent of the actual system. <--- can do...

Automatic solinod to bypass radiator and feed inline direct to a chiller, for hot days. <--- have done...
Sealed waterfall custom res, so u can reproduce the Cray type motif... <--- can beg my friend to come out of sabbatical and build me a res...

that is just the shell... forget the internals..
yes im a nut...

Silver is not that expensive, less than a grand to make a solid silver full cover water block. For the CPU, probably $300. Silver does have some advantages.

Custom case, why not...but why carbon fiber? With a fancy water cooling system it's not like this thing will be moved so there is no logical reason for it.

Same with paint, does not affect the performance in any aspect.
I have to admit I have no idea what low iron glass is, or why you would want it.
Sounds like another non performance thing.

And why a separate control system? I don't understand how this would work. Some kind of networked link to the main PC and custom software control? Because using a surrogate PC for temp control seems illogical.

Bypass for chiller, meh why? If your going to use a chiller at all, use it all the time. Or pipe your water underground...that would save you all the money, electricity, and noise of fans radiators ect.

Waterfall reservoir? I guess...is there a reason? If you already have the pump and the reservoir no reason not to pump it in from the top to have a "waterfall".

With all that cost for water though, I would think save on the blocks and go chiller and sub ambient. I'm sure you could get a custom AC unit or two with individual loops for each block.

Either way about 15$k for a fully decked out quad SLI gaming PC. Sound's fine to me.

9$k for sub 3Ghz dual server CPU setup seems a waste to me however, cant even OC.
Add say 4x K20 cards, and we're already at 23$k...then add high end RAM etc. So yeah it is possible to build a more expensive "PC". Glad this is not what you were trying to suggest.

 

[EliteRetard]

Are there socket 2011 boards that properly and fully support PCI-E 3.0? (I don't actually know for sure, I've seen some reports that said maybe/sort of).

If so, then going for a cheaper 3930k with PCI-E 3.0 may be the way to go.
If you can get 3.0 now and a cheaper CPU then you wont be missing to much upgrading to Ivy-E when it comes. 500$ for 3930, later sell it for say 350$ and buy a new 500$ Ivy-E (4930?).

 

[aigomorla]

Silver is not that expensive, less than a grand to make a solid silver full cover water block. For the CPU, probably $300. Silver does have some advantages.

Custom case, why not...but why carbon fiber? With a fancy water cooling system it's not like this thing will be moved so there is no logical reason for it.

Same with paint, does not affect the performance in any aspect.
I have to admit I have no idea what low iron glass is, or why you would want it.
Sounds like another non performance thing.

And why a separate control system? I don't understand how this would work. Some kind of networked link to the main PC and custom software control? Because using a surrogate PC for temp control seems illogical.

Bypass for chiller, meh why? If your going to use a chiller at all, use it all the time. Or pipe your water underground...that would save you all the money, electricity, and noise of fans radiators ect.

Waterfall reservoir? I guess...is there a reason? If you already have the pump and the reservoir no reason not to pump it in from the top to have a "waterfall".

With all that cost for water though, I would think save on the blocks and go chiller and sub ambient. I'm sure you could get a custom AC unit or two with individual loops for each block.

Either way about 15$k for a fully decked out quad SLI gaming PC. Sound's fine to me.

9$k for sub 3Ghz dual server CPU setup seems a waste to me however, cant even OC.
Add say 4x K20 cards, and we're already at 23$k...then add high end RAM etc. So yeah it is possible to build a more expensive "PC". Glad this is not what you were trying to suggest.

lol...

Also the gpu blocks + board blocks on the silver is what would be pricey... not to mention how much silver one loses while milling / water jetting.
Carbon fiber because of its appearance...
Air brush painting would be more pictures.
Low iron.. is for clarity when viewing inside.. also im tired of plexi scratching...
http://www.spancraft.com/low-iron-glass.shtml
Of course it brings risk of breaking over plexi / lexan... but it will be a LOT more scratch resistant.

Chiller is for lulz... most of the time ambient works.... but when your bored u can get more umph.

Separate controller because... well because the notions of 2 computers in 1 is kinda cool... also i saw some guy do it, and i swore i would rip him off one day..
That atom tho... was controlling the systems on 3 different lan pc's... it was quite an epic build... im very jealous at it still....

 

[EliteRetard]

lol...

Also the gpu blocks + board blocks on the silver is what would be pricey... not to mention how much silver one loses while milling / water jetting.

*snip*

Separate controller because... well because the notions of 2 computers in 1 is kinda cool... also i saw some guy do it, and i swore i would rip him off one day..
That atom tho... was controlling the systems on 3 different lan pc's... it was quite an epic build... im very jealous at it still....

Like I said, probably need 3lbs of silver per block that's just a hair over 1$k (23$ troy oz 14.58/lb). But you don't "loose" the milled silver, you can sell it. Lets say we can resell .5lbs, that's about 160$. So lets just say 900$ per GPU block (full coverage). I figure a CPU block is a third of that, 300$. Not sure on the MOBO parts and such, they cant be more than a CPU block?

Anywho...

Still don't understand how the atom PC is controlling anything. Are there temp sensors in the water? Then custom software to control pump/fan speeds based on those temps?

CPU/block 1.3$k, 4x GPU/block 7.6$k, MOBO/blocks 1$k, RAM/blocks 1$k, PSU/s 400$, Case 1.5$k

Total=12.8$k
Leaves ~2.2$k for the pumps/rads/tubes/res
Should be easily doable even for the best parts.

Though I now realize I forgot the 4x1TB RAID 5 SSDs for 2.4$k.
I could still handle that.

I make around that much each month, and I don't spend it on much else.

 

[Carfax83]

Whenever you use three GPUs, I think a hex core is the best option to drive them. Therefore get a 3930K and overclock it as high as it will go, then when Ivy-E comes out, upgrade if you think it's necessary.

 

[Carfax83]

Are there socket 2011 boards that properly and fully support PCI-E 3.0? (I don't actually know for sure, I've seen some reports that said maybe/sort of)..

Yes, many LGA 2011 boards support PCI-E 3.0. I know mine does, although I may need a patch to activate it.

 

[UNhooked]

Mine does as well. If getting 2011 no reason to get another board but Asus RIVE or the Asrock Extreme11

 

[crashtech]

http://anandtech.com/show/6985/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-at-1440p-adding-in-haswell-/9

To save you some time, here's the conclusion for 3 GPUs:

The funny thing about the Anandtech test setup is apparently the 3960X always ran in PCIe 2.0 mode, which may have negatively impacted its performance in the multi-GPU tests.

Anyway, LGA2011 will get Ivy-E in the fall, that is the enthusiast CPU some of us are waiting for.

 

[sxr7171]

WOAH STOP..

1. NEVER and i say NEVER have someone else build u a custom LC system.
Unless ur present with him for 100% of the build.. and he walks you STEP by STEP.

You will NOT know how to fix it... NOT know if something is wrong.. and NOT know what to do until you have done all the research.

And i dont ever recommend the newbie to do a complicated system like that as there first project.

its like telling a newbie to go build an Indy Car from scratch without having him read a manual.

Ditch the watercooling... im being serious.
If your not building it, DONT WATERCOOL.

Well outside AIO's... but that isnt real watercooling.

I did a custom setup years ago and I'd have to agree on that. You have to do it yourself.

On my current build I'm using a H80. The setup is unbelievable. No headache, no maintenance and set up in 15 minutes. Great temps and CPU is stably overclocked beyond my expectations.

However my current build is a gaming build and not an "enthusiast" build. To me an enthusiast build is a large part about being very highly involved in the building and maintenance of the build.

 

[Carfax83]

The funny thing about the Anandtech test setup is apparently the 3960X always ran in PCIe 2.0 mode, which may have negatively impacted its performance in the multi-GPU tests.

Anyway, LGA2011 will get Ivy-E in the fall, that is the enthusiast CPU some of us are waiting for.

Not only that, but the kind of games they used D:

They didn't use Crysis 3, the most system intensive game out right now.

 

[jambon2006]

Alright, going for that 2011 socket

thanks everyone !

 

[UaVaj]

Good Call.

SB-E for now. IVB-E when availble. No Haswell.

 

[Durvelle27]

why do you need 3 titans

 

[blackened23]

why do you need 3 titans

That's a great question since he's gaming on a single monitor. But, if he wants to waste money (no disrespect intended), that's his prerogative. I could see going tri for surround. Not for single. I've gamed extensively on a single 2560x1600 panel with dual 680 sli's. To get 3 Titan's is a waste to put it mildly; but again some people don't mind wasting money. So whatever.

 

[crashtech]

Perhaps he might consider a 4K monitor. That would give those Titans something to do.

 

[EliteRetard]

Saw the Seiki 50" 4K brand new for under 1$k now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161045592626

Ebay through buy.com

 

[crashtech]

I'd sure love to try one of those out. I'm finding the latest game engines to be more immersive than ever before, and a 4K monitor would probably be amazing. I already need to add a wall clock to my setup since I get so lost in those other worlds...

 

[Grooveriding]

RIVE or Xtreme11 and SB-E. Get IVB-E later if you desire. 2011 supports PCIE 3.0 out of the box with AMD. For nvidia you run a tool that does a quick registry edit to enable it.

 

[tweakboy]

Your going to need Xeon 12 core 24 thread LOL jk jk,,

Grab a Sandy E or a Ivy E 6c12t monster in September 24th.

 

[Lepton87]

Unlimited budget and water cooling?But why? You can have better results with cascade cooling.Unlike LN2 you can have it working 24/7. 3 cascade cooled modded Titans? Sweet. Someone suggested 780s, that's like the only scenario where Titan is a go to choice. 3 GPUs and up and suddenly 3GB is not enough. Obviously this is not the forum to discuss such a system go there http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forum.php
ps. you can try 4 Titans, sometimes performance goes up but not always, drivers are very immature and QuadSLI Titan is not even officially supported but it does work.
ps1. for the "it's a waste of money, you don't need that" group people spend upwards of 100k$ with hardly an upper limit on tuning their cars. They don't need 1000HP and more for locomotion, go argue with them how stupid it is what they're doing.

 

[TidusZ]

I sorta agree with Lepton. Water cooling performance isn't really that great for the cost and maintenance required. If you've got unlimited budget I would also recommend cascade cooling (basically all the parts that a fridge/freezer uses). If you go for water cooling you'll maybe get like 10-20 celsius better temps which will maybe give you 200 more mhz on o/c. Going with cascade you can get temps close to -100 C and get significantly higher overclocks on the processor at least. You could probably have it built in a way to block the noise from the cooling since the compressor will be loud.

I was gung ho on watercooling in the past but honestly for all the hassle and money the performance isn't as great as I figured it would be prior to researching it more.

 

[aigomorla]

Unlimited budget and water cooling?But why? You can have better results with cascade cooling..

ROFLROFL... and i thought i was bad....

OP u also should get a ZPM power supply while ur at it.

BTW im not trying to get him to watercool, and u guys want him to cacade a phase unit? :sneaky: