Which Christian denominations reject Evolution?

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: glen

Therefore, I believe that the "official" Catholic dogma is that evolution is possible, and that it does not conflict with holy doctrine, although some individual Catholics may have differing opinions

Yes.
I agree.
Evolution does not conflict with doctrine, but Creationism does conflict with science.

did some one skip over genesis in bible study?

 

[glen]

did some one skip over genesis in bible study?

No, but you must have skipped my post.

Here is the explaination:

Basically, most denominations say that the Bible is inerrant with regards to Spiritual Salvation, but not science.

 

[glen]

The point of this threas isn't what i think anyway.
The point is that MOST Christians do not believe in Creationism, including the Pope.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: glen

did some one skip over genesis in bible study?

No, but you must have skipped my post.

Here is the explaination:

Basically, most denominations say that the Bible is inerrant with regards to Spiritual Salvation, but not science.

what is the source of your information because i seriously dont buy it. you tryin to tell me that the pope doesnt think that JC flew around makin hippos and sunflowers and apples and stuff.

 

[HombrePequeno]

I didn't know the Mormons accepted evolution. Interesting.

 

[dc]

Originally posted by: glen
The point of this threas isn't what i think anyway.
The point is that MOST Christians do not believe in Creationism, including the Pope.

if that is true, it is very disheartening.

 

[Red Dawn]

if that is true, it is very disheartening.

Yeah if you are a Religious Whacko

 

[Jittles]

I'm a lutheran and my church does reject the theory of evolution ie the big bang, but does not reject wholy the science that is proven, in other words, if it is proven then so be it, it must be true on some scale, but nobody had better tell me that evolution has been proven, it is exactly that, the THEORY of evolution. I understand that both creation and evolution (macroscopic? as somebody put it) both are unproven "theories" but I firmly believe that God created the universe and everything in it. I will stand corrected on the day somebody proves it. Until then I believe what I believe.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: dc

Originally posted by: glen
The point of this threas isn't what i think anyway.
The point is that MOST Christians do not believe in Creationism, including the Pope.

if that is true, it is very disheartening.

what i dont understand is they hold the bible up to such reverence and when scientific progress proved many passages in the bible to incorrect now people are saying ohh its ok, its a spirtiual guide anyway. whats to say the spiritual stuff isnt correct? it seems like stubborness and denial to me.

 

[glen]

Translation of one of the current Pope's statements:
http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/message.htm

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Jittles
I'm a lutheran and my church does reject the theory of evolution ie the big bang, but does not reject wholy the science that is proven, in other words, if it is proven then so be it, it must be true on some scale, but nobody had better tell me that evolution has been proven, it is exactly that, the THEORY of evolution. I understand that both creation and evolution (macroscopic? as somebody put it) both are unproven "theories" but I firmly believe that God created the universe and everything in it. I will stand corrected on the day somebody proves it. Until then I believe what I believe.

There are at least two kinds of Lutherans.

The Missouri Synod Lutherans are different from Pentecostals in name only.

 

[Josephus]

Catholics and Evolution

To what extent is the theory of evolution applicable to man? That God should have made use of natural, evolutionary, original causes in the production of man's body, is per se not improbable, and was propounded by St. Augustine (354-430)

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Josephus
Catholics and Evolution

To what extent is the theory of evolution applicable to man? That God should have made use of natural, evolutionary, original causes in the production of man's body, is per se not improbable, and was propounded by St. Augustine (354-430)

why dont you quote the whole passage ya mook!

To what extent is the theory of evolution applicable to man? That God should have made use of natural, evolutionary, original causes in the production of man's body, is per se not improbable, and was propounded by St. Augustine (see AUGUSTINE OF HIPPO, SAINT, under V. Augustinism in History). The actual proofs of the descent of man's body from animals is, however, inadequate, especially in respect to paleontology. And the human soul could not have been derived through natural evolution from that of the brute, since it is of a spiritual nature; for which reason we must refer its origin to a creative act on the part of God.

 

[glen]

Creationism is clearly a new interpretation.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: glen
Creationism is clearly a new interpretation.

the old testament is not new, genesis is not new, creationism is not new.

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: glen
Creationism is clearly a new interpretation.

the old testament is not new, genesis is not new, creationism is not new.

People taking it literaly is.

 

[Spoooon]

Well, a common misconception is that the theory of evolution talks about the creation of life on earth. All it is is a theory about species change over time. There is nothing about the origin of life. That being said, I know that Catholics can handle evolution. Atleast the Pope has said that evolution is a valid theory and not to be considered a hypothesis.

 

[kompozr]

I understand that both creation and evolution (macroscopic? as somebody put it) both are unproven "theories" but I firmly believe that God created the universe and everything in it. I will stand corrected on the day somebody proves it. Until then I believe what I believe.

Unproven theories? First, I'm sorry Glen because this was not supposed to be for debate, but I just can't resist.

Unproven theories? No, you are wrong, evolution is completely proven. This is simply a fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific meaning of the word theory. Essentially, evolution is as much of a theory as gravity is a theory, or the FACT that the earth revolves around the sun is a theory. Evolution will always be a theory, and will always be accepted as true in the scientific community. It's sad to me how many people hold your opinion.

Glen, thank you for this forum topic, I have a close friend who doesn't "believe" (which is the wrong word to say) in evolution and I'm trying to figure out the best way to safely go about helping to change her mind/get her to see. For her I don't care, but she has a little boy, and it kills my soul to think that the little boy could grow up rejecting the FACTS of science for some fairy tale book.

 

[KlokWyze]

Theories are typically more established then basic "facts", like basic understandings of "jumping from a skyscraper will kill you".

If you deny evolutionary theory as credible you are truly a tool of the clergy and/or an idiot.

 

[Printer Bandit]

why isn't it the law of evolution?

 

[phucheneh]

Theories are typically more established then basic "facts", like basic understandings of "jumping from a skyscraper will kill you".

If you deny evolutionary theory as credible you are truly a tool of the clergy and/or an idiot.

...no. Theory is...theory, no matter how proven. Asserting that fact < theory is absolutely retarded. Quit giving science a bad name.

And the answer to the OP is generally that most don't reject it outright, as they're beginning to realize that it makes them look stupid. Like most things, they simply bend it (in the most perverse and asinine of ways) until it 'fits' with their beliefs.

 

[DAGTA]

You quoted and replied to a post that was more than 10 years old.

Who knows, maybe Jittles will show up and respond.

 

[sandorski]

Half the posters in this thread I don't or only vaguely remember. :O

 

[Meghan54]

Unproven theories? First, I'm sorry Glen because this was not supposed to be for debate, but I just can't resist.

Unproven theories? No, you are wrong, evolution is completely proven. This is simply a fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific meaning of the word theory. Essentially, evolution is as much of a theory as gravity is a theory, or the FACT that the earth revolves around the sun is a theory. Evolution will always be a theory, and will always be accepted as true in the scientific community. It's sad to me how many people hold your opinion.

Glen, thank you for this forum topic, I have a close friend who doesn't "believe" (which is the wrong word to say) in evolution and I'm trying to figure out the best way to safely go about helping to change her mind/get her to see. For her I don't care, but she has a little boy, and it kills my soul to think that the little boy could grow up rejecting the FACTS of science for some fairy tale book.

Trying to get your post count up, eh? What other explanation can there be for digging up a thread that is 11 years old? Talk about necro'ing a thread.....sheesh.

 

[phucheneh]

GODDAMMIT WHY ARE THERE SO MANY necros?