Which candidate serves middle class America?

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Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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This is one of the main reasons the righties are against the lefties, they simply appear interested in sticking it to the rich.

That's about as true as saying the main reason for fining a company that breaks pollution laws and causes harm is to stick it them.

Many such company officials actually are deluded and think that's the case.

But you're simply wrong.

The fact is, you are falling for a lie about the left; you do not understand the first thing about the problems with wealth being too concentrated, so you make up an agenda.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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I'd qualify the middle class as people who are "not poor" and people who "do not have enough wealth in investments so that they still need to work for a living."

So, given that ... I'd look to see which candidates want to lower the taxes on earned income and instead shift that burden over to capital gains.

Or I'd look to see which candidates want to go for government health care, as medical costs can turn somebody into "poor" from "middle class" overnight.

I'd also look for a candidate who has less than 1,000,000 in their "war chest", and who does not take any donations from large corporate masters.

So, my answer is that there is no candidate that even claims to serve the middle class.
 
Dec 30, 2004
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That's about as true as saying the main reason for fining a company that breaks pollution laws and causes harm is to stick it them.

Many such company officials actually are deluded and think that's the case.

But you're simply wrong.

The fact is, you are falling for a lie about the left; you do not understand the first thing about the problems with wealth being too concentrated, so you make up an agenda.

See? You're focusing on me already and are going to continue down your line of just be angry at the Republicans. You're not willing to compromise.
 
Dec 30, 2004
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I'd qualify the middle class as people who are "not poor" and people who "do not have enough wealth in investments so that they still need to work for a living."

So, given that ... I'd look to see which candidates want to lower the taxes on earned income and instead shift that burden over to capital gains.

Or I'd look to see which candidates want to go for government health care, as medical costs can turn somebody into "poor" from "middle class" overnight.

I'd also look for a candidate who has less than 1,000,000 in their "war chest", and who does not take any donations from large corporate masters.

So, my answer is that there is no candidate that even claims to serve the middle class.

I don't see why we can't have progressive capital gains.

Making anything less than $30k/year on the stock market and your capital gains tax is 0%. Why? to encourage people to save for the future.
 

ComradeBeck

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You're not willing to compromise.

Why should someone when 2 people are speaking as adults and one plainly is wrong/uninformed. The reason right wingers fight so much against fellow Americans is they have become fanbois in a fake war perpetuated by rich old dudes getting paid to sow outrage like a tabloid soap opera called "conservatism". Grow up, if you are wrong be a man and just quit BSing. You make yourself look ignorant/psychotic when people can not accept/learn from mistakes/process contridictions in the real world instead of descending into fanboism.