Which Americans support the Second Amendment? The answer depends on whether whites or blacks have the guns.

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It appears the right-wing is pro-second amendment for whites only...

Between June 12 and June 22 of this year, we surveyed a sample of 1,013 Americans. The survey was fielded by Survey Sampling International/ResearchNow. SSI maintains a large online opt-in panel from which participants are recruited. This sample was recruited to be representative in terms of age, education, sex, race and region of the country.

We presented people with a scenario in which a group is preemptively disarmed by the government. One-third of our respondents saw this story: “Earlier this month federal officers seized a large number of firearms, including handguns and assault rifles, from members of an anti-government activist group. A spokesman for the group says they are peaceful, and legally own all of the firearms seized in the raids.”

Another third saw the same story, but instead of the group in question being described ambiguously, these respondents were told that the group was “Posse Comitatus, a white anti-government activist group.” The remaining third were told that the group was the “Black Panthers, an African-American anti-government activist group.”

We then asked the respondents, “Do you think the government seizing firearms violates the group’s right to bear firearms?”

In addition, we also measured feelings toward blacks and whites by asking people to rate the groups on feeling thermometers that ranged from 0 (very cold) to 100 (very warm).

Here’s what we found
First, overall views of the government’s action did not depend on how the anti-government group was described. The same fraction of respondents — about 68 percent — said the government’s action violated the group’s rights, regardless of how that group was described.

But how the group was described did affect the way people’s racial attitudes were associated with their view of gun rights.

Among people who read about the Black Panthers, those holding warmer views toward whites than blacks were less likely to say that taking away guns violated the group’s rights. But among people who read about Posse Comitatus, the opposite was true: Those who viewed whites more warmly were more likely to say the group’s rights had been violated.
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What this means
Much political science research has found that attitudes about racial groups influence public opinion on a wide range of topics and can inform voters’ decisions at the polls. Decades of research have also shown that the public finds it easier to extend free-speech rights to popular groups.

Our findings suggest that views of Second Amendment rights are no different. They are strongly influenced by the identity of the group bearing arms. Again, many people don’t recognize rights claims by groups they don’t like.



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Phokus

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Not surprised. Reagan enacted gun bans in California when black panthers were open carrying.
 
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pmv

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It's always been obvious that US gun-culture is intimately connected to the history of racial conflict. There's evidence that 'racial fear' is strongly correlated with 'strong support for the right-to-bear arms', but really you just have to look at the history of the country.

It's not 'the government' gun owners fear, it's other Americans. Nobody finds Americans more scary than do Americans.
 

TheVrolok

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It's always been obvious that US gun-culture is intimately connected to the history of racial conflict. There's evidence that 'racial fear' is strongly correlated with 'strong support for the right-to-bear arms', but really you just have to look at the history of the country.

It's not 'the government' gun owners fear, it's other Americans. Nobody finds Americans more scary than do Americans.
Americans are quite a paranoid bunch.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Dude it's a pretty crappy study. I suspect, but cannot know from this, that black people sympathized with the Panthers and whites less so. Same for the Free Range Nutters as I'll call the others and whites, at least I'm guessing, but if anyone wanted to learn anything the rates of "yes, no, uncertain" as well as racial breakdown would be there.

We really didn't learn anything.
 

Juiblex

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They should have used fictional names. People have heard of black Panthers and the white group -- haven't heard of them. I think that it would have made a big difference.
 

Jhhnn

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It's always been obvious that US gun-culture is intimately connected to the history of racial conflict. There's evidence that 'racial fear' is strongly correlated with 'strong support for the right-to-bear arms', but really you just have to look at the history of the country.

It's not 'the government' gun owners fear, it's other Americans. Nobody finds Americans more scary than do Americans.

Whatever sells more guns, mostly to white people. And whatever keeps white people voting for that good old trickle down deception.