which AMD 64 would be the one to go for best price to performance ratio?

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stnick80

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Sounds like your on the right track DFI NF4 or MSI NF4. Good luck with your decision! You will be happy. I know I am.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I totally agree, the 3000+ is a no brainer.

And at $150 bucks, overclock the &*%$ out of it. In the unlikely event that it dies before your ready to upgrade, buy another one at a cheaper price and you've still saved a ton of cash!

1. buy a 3000+
2. find the OC point at which it fries
3. buy a new one and oc it a bit lower

you still saved money ;)

Thats the best 3 step overclocking guide on the web, must be a stickY!!!!!!

If it ain't smokin, it ain't done yet!
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I totally agree, the 3000+ is a no brainer.

And at $150 bucks, overclock the &*%$ out of it. In the unlikely event that it dies before your ready to upgrade, buy another one at a cheaper price and you've still saved a ton of cash!

1. buy a 3000+
2. find the OC point at which it fries
3. buy a new one and oc it a bit lower

you still saved money ;)

Thats the best 3 step overclocking guide on the web, must be a stickY!!!!!!

If it ain't smokin, it ain't done yet!
Its got my vote! :laugh:
 

richardrds

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Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I totally agree, the 3000+ is a no brainer.

And at $150 bucks, overclock the &*%$ out of it. In the unlikely event that it dies before your ready to upgrade, buy another one at a cheaper price and you've still saved a ton of cash!

1. buy a 3000+
2. find the OC point at which it fries
3. buy a new one and oc it a bit lower

you still saved money ;)


LMFAO, that's going to be a classic, zakee00. ;) :) ;)

 

Showtime

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I grabbed that DFI unltra D for $149 at monarch and the combo should be in tomorrow. The SLI board was $180 and the SLI with the extra stuff was $219 I think.
They are out of stock but worth checking. Call or email for the combo (AMD 64 cpu/mobo) and you get 2 games and $50 worth of napster downloads for free.

-show
 

Copenhagen69

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Originally posted by: richardrds
I agree with Zakee00,

The best price to performance ratio is the 3000+ Winchester ($155 retail box w/HSF) or the 3200+ Winchester which is $30 to $40 more. Both these CPU's can easily OC 2.5Ghz to 2.6Ghz with the retail HSF that comes with them.

The 3000+ has a 9x multi, and the 3200+ has a 10x multi, so if your mobo cannot reach 300 LDT/HTT (FSB) then you would be better off with the 3200+ because of its higher multiplier if you want to reach 2.6Ghz. I have a 3000+ and Abit AV8 mobo and i had to stop at 2.5Ghz because my mobo has pblms with the AGP lock at high LDT/HTT speeds. If i had the 3200+ i could have reached 2.6Ghz+ depending on how my stock air cooling was holding up.

agreed there...the 3000 winni is a awesome O/C and it will yeild great results...even on air you can expect about 2.6GHz or so...
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: richardrds
I agree with Zakee00,

The best price to performance ratio is the 3000+ Winchester ($155 retail box w/HSF) or the 3200+ Winchester which is $30 to $40 more. Both these CPU's can easily OC 2.5Ghz to 2.6Ghz with the retail HSF that comes with them.

The 3000+ has a 9x multi, and the 3200+ has a 10x multi, so if your mobo cannot reach 300 LDT/HTT (FSB) then you would be better off with the 3200+ because of its higher multiplier if you want to reach 2.6Ghz. I have a 3000+ and Abit AV8 mobo and i had to stop at 2.5Ghz because my mobo has pblms with the AGP lock at high LDT/HTT speeds. If i had the 3200+ i could have reached 2.6Ghz+ depending on how my stock air cooling was holding up.
NO, they don;t all do 2.5 ghz easy. I have TWO winchesters, a 3200+ that only does 2.2 (might be no agp lock on my AV8) and a 3000+ in my MSI NEO2 with PC4000 OCZ gold rev2. It only does 2295 stable ! I have personally seen them do 2.6, but no guarantee.
 

stnick80

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Markfw900,

Have you tested everything to isolate your OCing problem? Perhaps the CPUs in your systems are not the culprits. It is completely possible. There are alot of variables that come into play. It could be that you have just had bad luck, twice. If it were me I would have to test everything before I blame the cpus. I would say the the majority of the winchesters hit bare minimum 2.4GHz, no sweat. I am not going to throw a percentage out there because honestly I do not know one. I assure you though, that it is in fact high. It is a safe gamble that when you buy a winnie you will get a good overclock. I personally feel the odds are in the overclockers favor.
 

Markfw

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stnick80, well, I had Duvie's assistance. I know it will do 285 at least with a 166 divider, but with the multi at 9, I go one mhz at a time (after narrowing it down, won;t even post at 270x9) 255 is the best stable I can get. I am at 1.55 volt, and I won;t go to 8% (whatever that ends up being). The memory is not the problem, or the PSU. It is the EXACT physical PSU that first got Duvies' to 2.65 ! So thats it, 2395 mhz ! (still a 595 mhz OC or about 30%)
 

zakee00

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Dont even bother with the MSI NF4. get the dfi. its the best board ive ever seen, 450HTT !!!! not to mention the 4v for ddr...omg i wish i had that board with some good OCZ memory and an x850xt *cry*
1:1 290MHz 2-2-2-5 :shocked: ;)
BTW, my new OC guide shall be my sig :D
 

stnick80

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so it will do 285x9 with a 166 divider? stable? that is 2565Mhz. Nothing wrong with using a divider. I used the 166 divider to get to 290x9. Couldn't have gotten there without it. Even with OCZ plat. Don't be afraid of the volts either. I use 1.60v and get the same heat +1C i did with 1.50v. 1.60v is the only way mine will run above 280x9. I may have misunderstood your post but reading it sounds like an overclock of 285x9 with a 166 divider worked for you? nothing wrong with using a divider to go faster.
 

Markfw

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285x8 with a divider stable. won;t even post at 270x9. And at 8%, I think it will be over 1.6v. Maybe I will try for a bit.